Maynard out?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Are we/ clubs allowed to play music during s game that could possibly inspire the kop to sing etc.?...a bit of we will rock you or notts county's the team for me etc...!!! Play it and they will follow.? Possibly...

[Notts78]

Are we/ clubs allowed to play music during s game that could possibly inspire the kop to sing etc.?...a bit of we will rock you or notts countys the team for me etc...!!! Plsy it and they will follow.? Possibly...

I recently went to a game in Poland?… Wisla Krakow?… no away fans, yet the atmosphere was decent. They (like us) had a Kop that was full of like minded people wanting to chant. What they also had was a bloke with a mega phone at the front with 2 blokes on the big drums leading the way?… they didn?’t stop for the full 90 minutes, even when they went one down.
What I also liked was when they scored everyone with a scarf swung it above there heads. Which I thought looked mega. So can imagine it looked good at pitch level.

I genuinely feel that fans do make a difference at games. I saw a comment earlier about players being professionals?… that?’s true, but at professional level the smallest margin can make a difference.
I really dislike Aden Baldwin and know his performances deteriorated as fans started having a go.
Look at clubs where fans are at loggerheads with the owners, mostly struggle. Man Utd are probably the biggest club in England and it?’s no surprise to see them struggle when fans are more focused on the Glazers than the team. Spurs fans with Levy too.

[BigFatPie]

As well as being a season ticket holder I've watched Notts away 13 times this season, so I feel I have a reasonable perspective. The away support is superb and I genuinely believe it lifts the players. That and home teams being more attack minded have enabled us to have a great away record.
However at home, the Kop is generally in good voice prior to matches but becomes muted when we struggle to break teams down.
If you want ML rocking then the conductor needs to raise the tempo, something he seems reluctant to do.

Agree with every word of this. Home support starts off great but often the soporific nature of our performances this season has soon quietened it down.

As regards Saturday, I very much do want results to go our way but I think getting promoted with only 75 points would suggest a bit of a blood bath next season.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

I agree with this in principle, but at the same time I think... they're kids. Our oldest player is in his early 30s and the rest are all in their 20s. 20-28yo professionals in most fields really do need encouragement from their elders to hit their stride.

And hell, if I had 10,000 (mostly much older) people grumbling at me (literally) when I missed a pass, I'd bet money the next pass it harder to make.

That said, obviously I don't attend matches at all and am not in a position to criticise anyone who does.

Totally agree on fans grumbling vs fans encouraging; obviously its a no brainer to be positive rather than negative. Goes without saying.

I also get the age thing to some extent, but the sacrifice, dedication, grind even the youngest players have shown to get into that position show they have genuine professionalism.

I just do not think it is the fans responsibility to drag a performance out of a team.

[1955pie]

Totally agree on fans grumbling vs fans encouraging; obviously its a no brainer to be positive rather than negative. Goes without saying.

I also get the age thing to some extent, but the sacrifice, dedication, grind even the youngest players have shown to get into that position show they have genuine professionalism.

I just do not think it is the fans responsibility to drag a performance out of a team.

I believe a crowd can and sometimes does drag a performance out of a team.
When the manager and the players say that they appreciate the support that they receive both home and away, do you think they dont mean it?
Given a choice between booing, cheering or silence, which is most likely to help the team perform? Especially if they are having a tough time?
If we can help and choose not to then I would suggest that we do have some collective responsibility for the outcome.
I am sure you, like me will be down there giving it all on Saturday but for those who are just going to sit on their hands, they may as well stay at home and watch it on the telly.
Of course the crowds contribution matters.

[LeftPeg_Pie]

I believe a crowd can and sometimes does drag a performance out of a team.
When the manager and the players say that they appreciate the support that they receive both home and away, do you think they dont mean it?
Given a choice between booing, cheering or silence, which is most likely to help the team perform? Especially if they are having a tough time?
If we can help and choose not to then I would suggest that we do have some collective responsibility for the outcome.
I am sure you, like me will be down there giving it all on Saturday but for those who are just going to sit on their hands, they may as well stay at home and watch it on the telly.
Of course the crowds contribution matters.

Im not really disagreeing with too much of what you are saying:

Of course the fans supporting loudly, positively and consistently can help the team.
Of course fans can drag an extra percent or five out of a team.
Of course the fans and manager mean it when they say they appreciate the home and away fans.
Of course cheering rather than booing is generally better (although if you boo then that is your choice and that is fine by me, although it is something I choose to do very, very sparingly personally).

I simply do not think it is our responsibility to push the team on. Its more the terminology use than anything.

However, I 100% do disagree that if a fan wants to sit in ML quietly and not chant, or shout or whatever then that is fine too. I certainly do not think they should watch it on TV. When we start to gate keep about being a fan, we are on very rocky ground.

[Old_pie]

I believe a crowd can and sometimes does drag a performance out of a team.

So why doesn't it work for us?

When the manager and the players say that they appreciate the support that they receive both home and away, do you think they dont mean it?

Of course they mean it as they realise where their pay packets come from.

[Notts78]

So why doesn't it work for us?



Of course they mean it as they realise where their pay packets come from.

Sky?

[i961pie]

I believe a crowd can and sometimes does drag a performance out of a team.
When the manager and the players say that they appreciate the support that they receive both home and away, do you think they dont mean it?
Given a choice between booing, cheering or silence, which is most likely to help the team perform? Especially if they are having a tough time?
If we can help and choose not to then I would suggest that we do have some collective responsibility for the outcome.
I am sure you, like me will be down there giving it all on Saturday but for those who are just going to sit on their hands, they may as well stay at home and watch it on the telly.

Of course the crowds contribution matters.

Well if the people who don't sing or sit on their hands as you put it stayed at home then most of the Pavis and family stand would be empty. A massive loss of revenue.

[durhampie]

Well if the people who don't sing or sit on their hands as you put it stayed at home then most of the Pavis and family stand would be empty. A massive loss of revenue.

I remember being at Swindon when we got relegated. We sang throughout the whole 90 minutes to encourage the lads, but it made no difference, we played crap. Its the team that needs to give the supporters something to cheer about. This season at home we have had very little to cheer about. We win a game away against a side that sits 19th in the table, and suddenly SM is back in favour.. He needs to be accountable for all of those points dropped at home against inferior opposition with crowds of a round 10,000 and providing some of the worst boring football seen for ages..