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More than a little ironic that, as people celebrate the 80th anniversary of victory over Nazism, Reform UK have announced the banning of all flags being flown from public buildings in ‘their authorities’ other than the Union Jack and the flag of St.George.
So well thought through was the policy that the party of small minded bigots has apparently already had to backtrack to allow the continuation of the flying of county emblem flags, but no more signals of solidarity with causes from Ukraine to Gay Pride etc. All seemingly now verboten!
Last edited by ramAnag; 05-05-2025 at 05:30 PM.
So, looking at both current issues from an independent viewpoint, the voting thing appears to be somewhat less of a thing that TTR claims, thanks for rooting that out Sith, albeit Im not sure how biased the press source is. Lets assume they arent, in which case nothing to see here
The flag thing is altogether more complex, and way more so than your (rA) out of hand dismissal when I mentioned it recently. Flag flying (on flagpoles and in (my words) controlled places (schoolrooms, inside other public buildings etc) has just got a bit out of control, Pride and Palestine flags having taken over from the now discredited or out of fashion BLM flags as devices for liberal folk (ie teachers but by no means only them) to express their current allegiances, usually without reference to anyone else let alone a quorum. Reforms action, crude as it is, is IMO a REaction to an unwholesome action which until recently, the (un)silent majority have felt too polite or too unempowered to react to
I think thats a balanced opinion, one against the dark side, one for
Lol…I knew the flag man of Etwall wouldn’t be able to resist, but just to clarify.
There was no ‘out of hand dismissal’. It was just another example of you exaggerating to try and make your point. Just as you were wrong with your outdated passport story (it wasn’t), just as you’ve been unable to come up with examples of me ‘claiming victory’ (I haven’t) and just as your flagpole hijackings in Etwall wasn’t a group at all but just, by your own admission, one person.
Now, because you know I’m a retired teacher you’ve gone down the ‘liberal folk i.e. teachers’ route. I’ve no idea why. Never seen a flag, other than ones belonging to various football clubs and national flags belonging to a country being studied at the time, in any classroom.
The point surely is that Reform UK have been in control of ten local authorities for four days and almost immediately they are exercising a level of censorship, displaying muddled thinking and invoking a meaningless policy which will please only those narrow minded enough to object to displays of tolerance or support for anything other than patriotism.
Personally I think we might well be better off with no flags. They seem to often cause more trouble than they’re worth however I recognise the importance some people attach to them and would simply advocate a more tolerant attitude rather than the almost immediate adoption of supposedly patriotic and confrontational muscle flexing.
Last edited by ramAnag; 05-05-2025 at 07:10 PM.
Actually what Reform are clearly doing are actions that have little or no impact on the lives of the people who live in those areas, it is performative politics, which distracts from the reality, that actually getting things done is difficult.
I mean how does a flag being flown negatively impact upon you or anybody else? If your the type of person that froths at the mouth of such things, I'd suggest you have too much time on your hands and might be better off using it to help the community you live in.
You also make the mistake, which admittedly everyone does to an extent, of thinking that their views echo the views of the majority of people, when in reality nothing is further from the truth. This mythical silent majority, which even after last Thursdays local elections is hardly that based on the numbers that actually voted and even then those that voted for Reform had a range of different reasons, from expressing their displeasure with how the current government have acted, to being attracted by the clear bigotry and racism that reform fosters.
But there again on some occasions your "suck it up buttercup" remarks addressed to some of us on here, suggests your only in favour of empowerment or protest when it suits you.
lol, really? Public buildings that represent the nation. Buildings that get hijacked by every left wing council nut, to fly divisive flags like the Palestinian flag etc? They are neutral ground, not political advertisement points. Of course you see it as small minded bigots, yet ignore the distress it could cause someone else.
NEUTRAL GROUND, run with tax payers money.
qelle surprise? Really?
https://trendsnewsline.com/2025/05/0...count-exposed/
I think you need to face up to Rochdales long running history of fraud where elections are concerned.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...hdale-15028865
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-13192008
Its a rotten borough and Labour cheating is not a surprise.
The council sweep the latest one to one side, yet you and sith just accept it,![]()