Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
So, looking at both current issues from an independent viewpoint, the voting thing appears to be somewhat less of a ‘thing’ that TTR claims, thanks for rooting that out Sith, albeit I’m not sure how biased the press source is. Lets assume they aren’t, in which case ‘nothing to see here’

The flag thing is altogether more complex, and way more so than your (rA) out of hand dismissal when I mentioned it recently. Flag flying (on flagpoles and in (my words) ‘controlled places’ (schoolrooms, inside other public buildings etc) has just got a bit out of control, Pride and Palestine flags having taken over from the now discredited or out of fashion BLM flags as devices for ‘liberal’ folk (ie teachers but by no means only them) to express their current allegiances, usually without reference to anyone else let alone a quorum. Reform’s action, crude as it is, is IMO a REaction to an unwholesome action which until recently, the (un)silent majority have felt too polite or too unempowered to react to

I think that’s a balanced opinion, one against the ‘dark side’, one for
Actually what Reform are clearly doing are actions that have little or no impact on the lives of the people who live in those areas, it is performative politics, which distracts from the reality, that actually getting things done is difficult.

I mean how does a flag being flown negatively impact upon you or anybody else? If your the type of person that froths at the mouth of such things, I'd suggest you have too much time on your hands and might be better off using it to help the community you live in.

You also make the mistake, which admittedly everyone does to an extent, of thinking that their views echo the views of the majority of people, when in reality nothing is further from the truth. This mythical silent majority, which even after last Thursdays local elections is hardly that based on the numbers that actually voted and even then those that voted for Reform had a range of different reasons, from expressing their displeasure with how the current government have acted, to being attracted by the clear bigotry and racism that reform fosters.

But there again on some occasions your "suck it up buttercup" remarks addressed to some of us on here, suggests your only in favour of empowerment or protest when it suits you.