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[Andy_Faber]

ever considered they are sicker and wanting everything? An ex of mine, was a specialist nurse in deformities. She covered an area from sheffield to south of Leicester. Most of her customers were ethnics, from inter marriage with everything from clefts to major organ deformities. She said it was frightening and they still insist on doing it. The figures on health costs were enormous and it all adds up. But saying anything, gets you in trouble.

I made a similar but more general point about a nurse friend, and because it went against the grain of the more entrenched forum members it was dismissed as made up. There?s almost no point offering anecdotes amongst the posters here

[Trickytreesreds]

In other news, Reform rolls on.

I gave Starmer a year, he may last longer than that, but I don't think by much. The free fall continues.

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[Trickytreesreds]

I made a similar but more general point about a nurse friend, and because it went against the grain of the more entrenched forum members it was dismissed as made up. There?s almost no point offering anecdotes amongst the posters here

She was serious about how bad it was. I was at her place when the phone rang at 3am. Another one born in Barnsley, with a cleft right up to the nose. They were screaming for her to go there, as they couldn't feed the baby.
She told me later they were first cousins from the same village in Pakistan. When explained to them why, all they would say, its gods will and said they will not stop having children. Both parents already had deformities and were not in good health. God help us.
But despite it being illegal here, the racist card, allows you to get away with it, I suppose.

[ramAnag]

I made a similar but more general point about a nurse friend, and because it went against the grain of the more entrenched forum members it was dismissed as made up. There?s almost no point offering anecdotes amongst the posters here

Andy, please don’t turn into TTR or start feeling sorry for yourself. There is a point in offering anecdotes…of course there is, but when they’re clearly flawed then they are going to be challenged.
As I remember, and I’ve got better things to do that trawl back, your ‘nurse friend’ claimed that her experience of working for the NHS was likened to feeling alien working WITH foreigners FOR foreigners. That view (of hers) isn’t accurate is it? That is what was challenged, not your relaying of the anecdote.
Likewise your recounting of the dodgy passport anecdote. You got the destination wrong and, again as I recall, it wasn’t dodgy at all as first claimed, but in that grey area close to expiry. It was your neighbour’s tale retold, something was lost in translation and you didn’t like being doubted, that was the problem.

You’re regularly amongst the first to challenge claims made by others, e.g. MA’s GP/patient equation. Don’t be surprised when people challenge the accuracy of aspects of your tales. It happens to everyone. Anecdotes are important but if they’re going to be taken seriously as indicative stories they can’t afford to be so obviously flawed and need to stand a little scrutiny.

[SithHappens]

Anecdotally, myself, my sister and parents have had great service from the NHS in recent times. Don't recall wards and waiting rooms being flooded with sick foreigners.

[swaledale]

Andy, please don?t turn into TTR or start feeling sorry for yourself. There is a point in offering anecdotes?of course there is, but when they?re clearly flawed then they are going to be challenged.
As I remember, and I?ve got better things to do that trawl back, your ?nurse friend? claimed that her experience of working for the NHS was likened to feeling alien working WITH foreigners FOR foreigners. That view (of hers) isn?t accurate is it? That is what was challenged, not your relaying of the anecdote.
Likewise your recounting of the dodgy passport anecdote. You got the destination wrong and, again as I recall, it wasn?t dodgy at all as first claimed, but in that grey area close to expiry. It was your neighbour?s tale retold, something was lost in translation and you didn?t like being doubted, that was the problem.

You?re regularly amongst the first to challenge claims made by others, e.g. MA?s GP/patient equation. Don?t be surprised when people challenge the accuracy of aspects of your tales. It happens to everyone. Anecdotes are important but if they?re going to be taken seriously as indicative stories they can?t afford to be so obviously flawed and need to stand a little scrutiny.

I fear AF has gone down the same rabbit hole as the dim red one. I mean he must have some understanding that one persons recounted experience is not necessarily and indeed most often isn't indicative of the whole situation. But then I guess if your experience is narrow, your views blinkered, then you will believe what you want to believe!

I mean how anyone capable of rational thought can state that the so called mass immigration of the 1990's and the failure to plan and invest for it, doesn't include the phrase from 2010 until 2024 when successive Tory governments inflicted austerity and cost cutting on virtually all public services, is beyond me.

I haven't read the dim red fans *******s. but will no doubt consist of cherry picked problems with people with an ethnic background which are real enough, but taken as a whole not significant whilst ignoring factors that having nothing to do with ethnicity. Ah well I guess the blind will lead the blind.

[swaledale]

Anyway, Starmer appears to have managed to negotiate some sort of accommodation with the orange man child and a trade deal with India, which the Tories were for whatever reason unable to complete whilst they were in office. I'm by no means not in accord with everything this government has done, but at least with regard to Trump so far Starmer seems to have played it right.

[swaledale]

Don?t get like rA, I didn?t dodge anything, I had about 45 seconds to answer and you got my best in those 45 seconds. You?re now getting the best of my 30 seconds. I?ll follow up with sources when I have time and when I?m within 20inched of my laptop not 20 miles

Mm you've dodged quite a lot lately, mostly because your tenuous grasp of reality is being repeatedly.

[SithHappens]

Anyway, Starmer appears to have managed to negotiate some sort of accommodation with the orange man child and a trade deal with India, which the Tories were for whatever reason unable to complete whilst they were in office. I'm by no means not in accord with everything this government has done, but at least with regard to Trump so far Starmer seems to have played it right.

Yep been a good day for the government imo.

[Andy_Faber]

I the dim red one?.the dim red fan.

You slipped again, twice in one post this time