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    Not defending SM but what would be plan B with this squad? Everyone keeps saying it but what does it look like? Genuine question as it doesn?t jump out at me with this current squad. Also why is our away form so good and our home so bad?

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    Actually SM has deployed many plans. Forgive me, but I'll call them 1, 2, 3 ect

    1. He's gone longer when the opposition has a high press. 2. He's overloaded targeted areas specific to the opposition. 3. He's varied the corners (not predictably short). There are so many variations, if I was younger, I would write a Thesis on it. It's laughable, fans come on message boards and think they are the font of all wisdom saying "ee's got no plan B" . B for Boring.

    Much as I love what the owners have done, I think they need to appraise the strategy. Year 1 in League 2, let's see what the players can do. Year 2, improve the obvious defensive frailties. Good work . Year 3, we've seen what it takes. Let's upgrade, and this will involve difficult personnel decisions
    Over to the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiPie View Post
    Actually SM has deployed many plans. Forgive me, but I'll call them 1, 2, 3 ect

    1. He's gone longer when the opposition has a high press. 2. He's overloaded targeted areas specific to the opposition. 3. He's varied the corners (not predictably short). There are so many variations, if I was younger, I would write a Thesis on it. It's laughable, fans come on message boards and think they are the font of all wisdom saying "ee's got no plan B" . B for Boring.

    Much as I love what the owners have done, I think they need to appraise the strategy. Year 1 in League 2, let's see what the players can do. Year 2, improve the obvious defensive frailties. Good work . Year 3, we've seen what it takes. Let's upgrade, and this will involve difficult personnel decisions
    Over to the board.
    Well that?s kind of where I?m at with it, I would like to see JJ and Jarvis wide of a front 3 but that?s not really been an option this season.
    We have switched to a 4 at the back a handful of times but with no real change in play.
    We have been totally devoid of pace and physicality in the side so that rules out certain tactics.
    No one in the 3 can hit diagonals let alone clipping that really hard pass over cbs but far enough away from the keeper. We have gone longer but Jatta can?t make the ball stick. People say pass it quicker but I?m pretty sure that?s worked on but the players aren?t good enough to do it consistently and that?s why I?m struggling with what Plan B would have looked liked and no one seems to suggest what it should have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiPie View Post
    Actually SM has deployed many plans. Forgive me, but I'll call them 1, 2, 3 ect

    1. He's gone longer when the opposition has a high press. 2. He's overloaded targeted areas specific to the opposition. 3. He's varied the corners (not predictably short). There are so many variations, if I was younger, I would write a Thesis on it. It's laughable, fans come on message boards and think they are the font of all wisdom saying "ee's got no plan B" . B for Boring.

    Much as I love what the owners have done, I think they need to appraise the strategy. Year 1 in League 2, let's see what the players can do. Year 2, improve the obvious defensive frailties. Good work . Year 3, we've seen what it takes. Let's upgrade, and this will involve difficult personnel decisions
    Over to the board.
    Plan b was simply punting the ball forward by Bass. Midfielders didnt move up the park, no one supported whoever was going to get the shove in the back from a defender. The punt was hardly ever over the last defender so there was no chance of running on to it....

    Plan b - you make me laugh

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    ...that's as good an assessment as you'll see in this board. Thank you.

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    ...Thaipie that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiPie View Post
    Actually SM has deployed many plans. Forgive me, but I'll call them 1, 2, 3 ect

    1. He's gone longer when the opposition has a high press. 2. He's overloaded targeted areas specific to the opposition. 3. He's varied the corners (not predictably short). There are so many variations, if I was younger, I would write a Thesis on it. It's laughable, fans come on message boards and think they are the font of all wisdom saying "ee's got no plan B" . B for Boring.

    Much as I love what the owners have done, I think they need to appraise the strategy. Year 1 in League 2, let's see what the players can do. Year 2, improve the obvious defensive frailties. Good work . Year 3, we've seen what it takes. Let's upgrade, and this will involve difficult personnel decisions
    Over to the board.
    And with very few exceptions, how many times have these tactical, masterclasses, actually worked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt_magpie View Post
    Well that?s kind of where I?m at with it, I would like to see JJ and Jarvis wide of a front 3 but that?s not really been an option this season.
    We have switched to a 4 at the back a handful of times but with no real change in play.
    We have been totally devoid of pace and physicality in the side so that rules out certain tactics.
    No one in the 3 can hit diagonals let alone clipping that really hard pass over cbs but far enough away from the keeper. We have gone longer but Jatta can?t make the ball stick. People say pass it quicker but I?m pretty sure that?s worked on but the players aren?t good enough to do it consistently and that?s why I?m struggling with what Plan B would have looked liked and no one seems to suggest what it should have been.
    The trouble is both Jarvis and JJ are both left footed and Jones is less effective on the right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    The trouble is both Jarvis and JJ are both left footed and Jones is less effective on the right?
    Thought Jarvis is actually right footed. May have heard wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i961pie View Post
    The trouble is both Jarvis and JJ are both left footed and Jones is less effective on the right?
    Jarvis is right footed, JJ would be fine high on the right, that?s where he?s always played just not as a WB.

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