OT Border Control State of Emergency

[Shark27]

A ludicrously expensive scheme to send a handful of people to a country that is so safe that the UK has accepted asylum claims from Rwandan citizens?

There was no evidence of it discouraging anyone when the Tories were introducing it.

To describe that as best certainly demonstrates how difficult it is to come up with solutions.

Of course there was no evidence of discouraging because it never happened.

I wouldn’t go by the UKs acceptance of asylum seekers as an answer to anything.

[KerrAvon]

The Rwanda scheme was trailed for months, potential deportees were detained and the first flight was a few minutes away from take-off (with a grand total of seven people on board) before it was stopped by legal action.

And through all that, not a hint of a deterrent effect.

Which all goes to show that even the most expensive of gimmicks are still gimmicks.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

The Rwanda scheme was trailed for months, potential deportees were detained and the first flight was a few minutes away from take-off (with a grand total of seven people on board) before it was stopped by legal action.

And through all that, not a hint of a deterrent effect.

Which all goes to show that even the most expensive of gimmicks are still gimmicks.

But the important bit - the legal people made a killing

[Shark27]

The Rwanda scheme was trailed for months, potential deportees were detained and the first flight was a few minutes away from take-off (with a grand total of seven people on board) before it was stopped by legal action.

And through all that, not a hint of a deterrent effect.

Which all goes to show that even the most expensive of gimmicks are still gimmicks.

In other words, it never happened.

[Stovicmiller]

How would you stop it, Bill?

To start with give em **** all when they get here . Definitely not nice warm hotels with three meals a day , clothes phones , discounted tickets for rothervalley dinghy and sailing trips , I did hear that they reached the other side of the lake and tried to claim asylum again . It was in a national newspaper about Rotherham council giving discounts so don’t know if that’s true. Give em cardboard to sleep under like our homeless.

[Back of the net]

https://x.com/basil_tgmd/status/1955...a5CJQSL-fc1GEg

Unbelievable the police, lawyers, politicians are not on our side.

[Stovicmiller]

Seen that video , that’s what we are letting into the country. Refugees welcome here we’ll all those that say that then they should sponsor one in their own home but when they are asked the question all they say is they haven’t the room.

[ragingpup]

To start with give em **** all when they get here . Definitely not nice warm hotels with three meals a day , clothes phones , discounted tickets for rothervalley dinghy and sailing trips , I did hear that they reached the other side of the lake and tried to claim asylum again . It was in a national newspaper about Rotherham council giving discounts so don?’t know if that?’s true. Give em cardboard to sleep under like our homeless.

Rotherham council allow people "living in Rotherham under a government approved refugee, resettlement or asylum seeker programme" to apply for a Rothercard that gets them a discount for services at Rother Valley Park. This is along with other locals on low incomes and a range of benefits. I think that the main focus here is to make the scheme inclusive to people granted refugee status but still setting up their lives in the area on low incomes so that they can pay to use the services therby generating income for the park and council.

I've read the Sun/Express reports on this and whilst it is factually correct that people arriving illegally and NOT yet had their claim processed and therefore can access this scheme, it should be said that boat hire is ?13 an hour and AS in this position only gets ?9.95 an hour so I am sure that only genuine refugees setting up to work but on low incomes would actually be accessing this offer.

I guess that RMBC could be clearer in saying words to the effect of 'you are eligible only if you have been granted refugee status or waiting for your claim to be processed by legal routes' but I would imagine that would be an additional prohibitave checking ball ache for the schemes administrators, who are more aware that people awaiting for their claim to be processed will not be able to afford to sail a boat in a park for an hour anyway*

*I accept that many people will argue that asylum seekers are given plenty enough money by the state to comfortably afford a boat, and will arrive at the park in a mercedez benz (gifted by state) and undertake criminal activities whilst on their boats using mobile phones (gifted by the state) but I can only reply as usual that such arguments will be due to it's proposor's inability to tell a refugee from an asylum seeker, anyone that looks brown or black from an asylum seeker or has been told all about it from their cousin Bob.

[KerrAvon]

https://x.com/basil_tgmd/status/1955...a5CJQSL-fc1GEg

Unbelievable the police, lawyers, politicians are not on our side.

What offence do you think he should have been arrested for?

[Stovicmiller]

What offence do you think he should have been arrested for?

you know the dinghy boy shouldn’t have walked in the house and you know it’s wrong . You just cannot help yourself. You’re just a smart prick . By the way I wouldn’t has bothered calling the police I would have shown him the error of his ways.