Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

Im not defending it at all, its the same in a sense of throwing soup or paint at old masters. Not the way to do it, but it attracts attention for sure. My observation about doing some painting in the peaceful derbyshire countryside was merely tongue in cheek that I didnt think needed explaining to most (as swale would say) sentient beings! Hmm Im in a bit of a Swaleic mood today.

The mention of "save our children" I hadb=nt seen but would interpret it very diiferently. Your interpretation seems to infer more killings of the nations children. Mine would be "save our country (from Islamic invasion) for future generations" which is a very different and much wider perspective. Who knows who is right....

Well if perhaps, just for once, you could act like a ‘sentient being’ and make your point properly without the infantile and slightly asinine attempts at humour it would be easier to understand what you actually stand for.

I mean, did you actually mean a few boats should be blown up when you suggested that course of action? Do you actually believe that approximately 7% of the population being Muslim equates to some sort of ‘Islamic invasion’? Do you not recognise that only around 4% of migrants are ‘illegal’ and that those on the extreme Right are seeking to create racial tension for all migrants via their actions?

You’re the guy who, the night before the Referendum spent the evening making anti Brexit placards and the next nine years defending it. Just for once, make your mind up and tell us what you really think. In your own words, ‘sentient being’ or Farage fan in disguise?

[Geoff Parkstone]

I've never made an anti Brexit placard in my life or for that matter any placard of any sort.

I think my views are clear from the previous post. I have no issue with legal immigration from wherever. We need the 'manpower'. I have a huge problem with illegal migration eg boat people. I have an equal problem we ith those who facilitate or excuse illegal migration eg people traffickers, grey employers, Keir Starmer etc.

Put simply I support people going into a shop to legally uy things, I abhor (illegal) shoplifters.

The boat people should understand international law claim asylum in the first safe place of arrival. If they got a boat direct from the middle east or Africa direct to Kent etc., then fair do's. But they don't. They make an economic choice because they know the benefit system is a soft touch here. Hence yes, If support sinking a few boats of it discouraged the illegal activity. I'm shocked that people like you seem to approve of c those vomitting crime
Is that clearer

[ramAnag]

I've never made an anti Brexit placard in my life or for that matter any placard of any sort.

I think my views are clear from the previous post. I have no issue with legal immigration from wherever. We need the 'manpower'. I have a huge problem with illegal migration eg boat people. I have an equal problem we ith those who facilitate or excuse illegal migration eg people traffickers, grey employers, Keir Starmer etc.

Put simply I support people going into a shop to legally uy things, I abhor (illegal) shoplifters.

The boat people should understand international law claim asylum in the first safe place of arrival. If they got a boat direct from the middle east or Africa direct to Kent etc., then fair do's. But they don't. They make an economic choice because they know the benefit system is a soft touch here. Hence yes, If support sinking a few boats of it discouraged the illegal activity. I'm shocked that people like you seem to approve of c those vomitting crime
Is that clearer

Not what you told me at the time.

I don’t think anyone is in favour of illegal immigrants, some are just more sympathetic and the analogy with shop lifters makes no sense at all.

People like me ‘seem to approve of c those vomitting crime’ makes nothing at all clearer.

[SithHappens]

I might be wrong but I didn't think there was a requirement for those seeking asylum to do so in the first safe country they arrive in?

[Geoff Parkstone]

There's none so blind as those who choose not to see.

[SithHappens]

I agree illegal immigration is a problem. It's not sustainable, it's a shame the likes of farage, Johnson and the 52% who voted brexit have put us in this position by reducing our ability to return those on the boats to where they came.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Sith+ the 1951 Convention doesn't but EU Law and the Dublin Regulations require it as do UK Inadmissibility rules (brought in post Brexit I think)

[Geoff Parkstone]

I agree illegal immigration is a problem. It's not sustainable, it's a shame the likes of farage, Johnson and the 52% who voted brexit have put us in this position by reducing our ability to return those on the boats to where they came.

Yes it's an unfortunate consequence of Brexit that I'm sure (a) 51.9% of those 52% didn't appreciate and (b) 100 % of the politicians involved chose not to mention even if they realised. Spilled milk for sure

[SithHappens]

Yes it's an unfortunate consequence of Brexit that I'm sure (a) 51.9% of those 52% didn't appreciate and (b) 100 % of the politicians involved chose not to mention even if they realised. Spilled milk for sure

It's obvious it's what Farage thrives on. If Starmer and Labour make headway into solving the problem Farage has no case to argue, he becomes irrelevant.

[ramAnag]

There's none so blind as those who choose not to see.

Except perhaps, for those who first need to cast the beam out of their own eye.