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Thread: Interesting take on the Woltemade move

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    Interesting take on the Woltemade move

    https://x.com/BayernSpace/status/196...439433852?s=61

    Nick Woltemade has personally informed Max Eberl and Christoph Freund that he will not wait until next summer for Bayern and will instead join Newcastle immediately. The Premier League club offered him clarity and ambition, promising to make him the direct successor to Alexander Isak, a starting role from day one, and the chance to prove himself in the most competitive league in the world. His entourage also made clear to Bayern that Newcastle expect Isak to join Liverpool in the final days of the window, a message that underlined how decisive the English side have been compared to Munich.

    Inside Bayern the reaction is one of shock, a feeling that has become all too common in recent transfer windows. Bayern submitted three separate bids to Stuttgart for Woltemade, and each one was rejected. Instead of matching the demand, the board chose to step back, convinced that waiting until next summer would eventually bring success. Their plan was to circle around Woltemade and move when the timing better suited their financial books. It mirrored the approach with Florian Wirtz, where the board relied on arrogance and low offers, believing they could pressure Leverkusen into selling. Wirtz chose Liverpool instead for several reasons, and Woltemade has now followed the same path, rejecting Bayern?s empty promises and choosing the clarity, financial strength, and decisiveness of Newcastle.

    The rejection cuts deeper because of the debate within the club. Uli Hoene? and Jan-Christian Dreesen championed Woltemade as the safe and conservative Bundesliga solution, German, media friendly and what they assumed would be cheap, the kind of continuity signing they could present after Harry Kane. Max Eberl pressed for a bigger move, quietly reaching out to Alexander Isak and Benjamin ?e?ko to test whether they would wait another year. Their answer was immediate rejection, leaving Bayern with nothing.

    This latest episode is another humiliation, a reminder of a club that once wanted to dictate the market but now finds itself rejected, exposed and increasingly irrelevant in the eyes of Europe?s best

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    Interesting take on it, main points seem to be:

    We've indicated we're selling Isak and that Woltemade is the direct successor.

    Woltemade wants to come here and challenge.

    German clubs are standing up to Bayern in regards selling prized assets at Bayern prices, could hurt them - thinking of CL games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammy89 View Post
    https://x.com/BayernSpace/status/196...439433852?s=61

    Nick Woltemade has personally informed Max Eberl and Christoph Freund that he will not wait until next summer for Bayern and will instead join Newcastle immediately. The Premier League club offered him clarity and ambition, promising to make him the direct successor to Alexander Isak, a starting role from day one, and the chance to prove himself in the most competitive league in the world. His entourage also made clear to Bayern that Newcastle expect Isak to join Liverpool in the final days of the window, a message that underlined how decisive the English side have been compared to Munich.

    Inside Bayern the reaction is one of shock, a feeling that has become all too common in recent transfer windows. Bayern submitted three separate bids to Stuttgart for Woltemade, and each one was rejected. Instead of matching the demand, the board chose to step back, convinced that waiting until next summer would eventually bring success. Their plan was to circle around Woltemade and move when the timing better suited their financial books. It mirrored the approach with Florian Wirtz, where the board relied on arrogance and low offers, believing they could pressure Leverkusen into selling. Wirtz chose Liverpool instead for several reasons, and Woltemade has now followed the same path, rejecting Bayern?s empty promises and choosing the clarity, financial strength, and decisiveness of Newcastle.

    The rejection cuts deeper because of the debate within the club. Uli Hoene? and Jan-Christian Dreesen championed Woltemade as the safe and conservative Bundesliga solution, German, media friendly and what they assumed would be cheap, the kind of continuity signing they could present after Harry Kane. Max Eberl pressed for a bigger move, quietly reaching out to Alexander Isak and Benjamin ?e?ko to test whether they would wait another year. Their answer was immediate rejection, leaving Bayern with nothing.

    This latest episode is another humiliation, a reminder of a club that once wanted to dictate the market but now finds itself rejected, exposed and increasingly irrelevant in the eyes of Europe?s best

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    Interesting take on it, main points seem to be:

    We've indicated we're selling Isak and that Woltemade is the direct successor.

    Woltemade wants to come here and challenge.

    German clubs are standing up to Bayern in regards selling prized assets at Bayern prices, could hurt them - thinking of CL games.

    yeah I get it.

    However, we need 2 strikers. We've not got 2 genuine strikers. Selling Isak with 3 days left of the window puts us back to square 1.

    The statement from the club was clear and concise. When Isak is done having his tantrum, his expected back to join the group.

    Liverpool are not going to get near the 150m required to start the conversation. Where is their 2nd bid?

    It's been 'Incoming' for 2 weeks... CRICKETS ... TUMBLE WEED!

    When they pony up it'll be a laughable 120m + 10m quid. Which will be rejected. IF THEY EVEN BOTHER

    Furthermore... If Isak was so hellbent on leaving, after all his disrespectful behaviour... None of his social Media has been stripped of NUFC content and once again WHERE IS THE TRANSFER REQUEST.

    Isak made comments about 'Promises not kept'. The Promises are believed to be:

    1. More money

    response - New deal on the table waiting for him

    2. Club not signing quality players - lacking ambitions

    4 international players & Ramsey who's on the cusp of the England team.



    So the question is... what has Isak got to say now?

    The player will leave when the club deem it right for him to leave. The Bid has to be big enough, which it won't.

    The 2nd striker won't be signed as there isn't enough time.

    Isak is the Wilson replacement on the bench and Woltemade is the new No.9

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    I'm not particularly disagreeing - just saying what the points made there seem to be.

    I think that after we put our foot down on ?150 million it'll take something special to sell for under that, even with new players in.

    Also - on bid front, I thought they had said they were waiting for positive indication on our side, hence the no bid.

    Great use of word tantrum for him though

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    Interesting read, that, Jammy. Sesko, Cunha, Mbuemo all went for the money (and no European football this season). Woltemade went for the challenge, to improve and for the football.

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    Interestingly, Luke Edwards was suggesting that he's Wilson's replacement, not Isak's.

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    Surely he?s the striker we need to replace Wilson.

    IF Flat Pack Billy is sold, we WILL still need another striker.

    If we can spend the money -

    Wissa is Prem ready

    Still talk of Mainoo leaving Man Utd - loan with option maybe?

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    Mainoo would be a very good addition but Man U have said he won't be leaving on loan (which is his preference as he doesn't want to go permanently).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Interestingly, Luke Edwards was suggesting that he's Wilson's replacement, not Isak's.
    From what I?ve seen he looks more Isak than Wilson. Anyway it?s not important who he replaces, we need another striker ideally - Wissa would be my choice.

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    Apparently Brentford have offered 45m for Dortmund striker Beier if that is accepted i would imagine Wissa will be allowed to join us so all looking good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidsMagpie View Post
    Apparently Brentford have offered 45m for Dortmund striker Beier if that is accepted i would imagine Wissa will be allowed to join us so all looking good.
    Aye - as many have said this one doesn't feel dead yet.

    I think it may well be deadline day deal though.

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