Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

[outwoodclaret]

Are the Greens now the biggest t*ts in the Parliamentary circus? I am given to ask this because new leader Zack Polanski advocated breast enlargement by hypnosis in a previous incarnation (years before he reinvented himself as a politician). He has been endorsed by renowned Guardian columnist Owen Jones. Which rather confirms my original hypothesis.

[sinkov]

I saw a google satellite image of Gaza yesterday, there is nothing left.

Au contraire mon ami, they still have a fully functioning Health Ministry. Don't they ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Au contraire mon ami, they still have a fully functioning Health Ministry. Don't they ?

That's offshore I believe mon ami. If it's not it will soon be reduced to rubble. I fail to understand the point of bombing rubble and killing even more unharmed civilians. If the IDF haven't seen off Hamas by dropping God knows what tonnage of bombs on Gaza since October 7th 2023 they never will. I'll begin a detailed research task to determine the total tonnage of bombs dropped by the IDF on Gaza since October 7, 2023. This will include official figures, independent estimates, and contextual analysis from credible sources.

[Balan]

BT : You have forgotten ,that the peace loving people of Gaza ,just loved to fire rockets into Israel. Attacks began in 2001. Since then (August 2014 data), almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel, all but a few thousand of them since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in August 2005. Hamas justified these as counter-attacks to the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
They have carried out more than one hundred suicide bombings, and dug dozens of terror tunnels into Israeli communities—all at the expense of the people of Gaza.

I bet you you dare not stay even 2-3 days in an Israeli settlement close to the border even though we have bomb shelters ,believe me its very scary ! ( I am near to the Lebanese border, so I know the experience) The range of missiles launched from Gaza Strip or from Lebanon (10-160 km).

[The Bedlington Terrier]

BT : You have forgotten ,that the peace loving people of Gaza ,just loved to fire rockets into Israel. Attacks began in 2001. Since then (August 2014 data), almost 20,000 rockets have hit southern Israel, all but a few thousand of them since Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip in August 2005. Hamas justified these as counter-attacks to the Israeli blockade of Gaza.
They have carried out more than one hundred suicide bombings, and dug dozens of terror tunnels into Israeli communities—all at the expense of the people of Gaza.

I bet you you dare not stay even 2-3 days in an Israeli settlement close to the border even though we have bomb shelters ,believe me its very scary ! ( I am near to the Lebanese border, so I know the experience) The range of missiles launched from Gaza Strip or from Lebanon (10-160 km).

We have had this pointless conversation before Balan. I think the full total of Israeli non-combatants killed by Hamas rocket fire is FIVE. Since 07.10.2023 the IDF have killed 63000 people and we are still counting.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

When will Netanyahu and his henchmen be held to account?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmIB9fOh2_Y

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I stated to research the carnage imposed on Gaza, by the IDF and that madman Netanyahu. In a disproportionate reprisal against the happenings of October 7th 2023 the bomb loads of the IDF Air force on Gaza have surpassed WWII European totals (Dresden, Hamburg, London. The ensuing Humanitarian Catastrophe is hard to put into words.

The scale of explosive ordnance has translated into unprecedented destruction:
Building and Infrastructure Damage: By the first quarter of 2024, satellite analysis confirmed at least 69% of all Gaza buildings had been damaged or destroyed, rising to 80% in northern regions such as Gaza City and Jabalia. This encompasses hospitals, schools, water and power facilities, and entire neighborhoods20.

Casualties: By April 2025, reported fatalities exceeded 46,000, including almost 18,000 children, and at least 110,000 injured, with thousands more still missing under the rubble. The Lancet and Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor studies estimate the real numbers may be higher due to inaccessible collapsed structures and delays in rescue and reporting2426.
Widespread Displacement: Over 1.9 million Palestinians, or 80% of Gaza's population, have been internally displaced according to the UN and Al Jazeera's latest tally, with many living in temporary, unsafe shelters or tent cities.

3. Historical Comparisons
Multiply sourced evidence places the bombing of Gaza in a unique historical context:
World War II Comparisons: The total tonnage of bombs dropped on Gaza now exceeds the combined bomb tonnage used against the cities of Dresden, Hamburg, and London in WWII. For reference, the Allies dropped approximately 3,900 tonnes on Dresden, 9,000 tonnes on Hamburg, and 19,000 tonnes on London during the Blitz—totalling roughly 32,000 tonnes. By contrast, Gaza has seen over 70,000 tonnes dropped in less than a year, in a territory smaller than Philadelphia13.
Nuclear Yield Equivalency: The Hiroshima atomic bombs equivalent yield was approximately 12–15,000 tonnes of TNT. Human rights organizations and independent academics have noted the explosive yield dropped on Gaza is now equivalent to 4–6 times that of Hiroshima13.

Intensity and Saturation: When adjusting for area and population, the daily and per capita/explosives per square kilometre figures for Gaza are exponentially higher than even the most intense campaigns of modern history, including the U.S. campaign in Vietnam and the bombing of Laos and Cambodia.

It’s impossible for me to carry with this research, my blood pressure has gone way beyond safe, but please mon ami, carry on with your denial and deflection techniques. It’s what all supporters of Israel do.

[Supersub6]

Yep, there is no doubt that Hamas should not have done what they did.
Mind you, those rich people that own all the munitions factories throughout the world are certainly not complaining. Perhaps they advised Hamas that it would be a good idea to do what they did.

Your concern, BT, is no different to lots of people, however, all it does is upset you and raise your blood pressure. Just accept that you have no part in this because it is all manufactured by those with money and they will continue earning money from the various tragedies throughout the world and they know that, no matter what you think or do, or no matter how much international recognition there is, it will have no effect whatsoever.
Stop making yourself ill. Life goes on and the Clarets will still be playing Liverpool after the international break.

[sinkov]

I stated to research the carnage imposed on Gaza, by the IDF and that madman Netanyahu. In a disproportionate reprisal against the happenings of October 7th 2023 the bomb loads of the IDF Air force on Gaza have surpassed WWII European totals (Dresden, Hamburg, London. The ensuing Humanitarian Catastrophe is hard to put into words.

The scale of explosive ordnance has translated into unprecedented destruction:
Building and Infrastructure Damage: By the first quarter of 2024, satellite analysis confirmed at least 69% of all Gaza buildings had been damaged or destroyed, rising to 80% in northern regions such as Gaza City and Jabalia. This encompasses hospitals, schools, water and power facilities, and entire neighborhoods20.

Casualties: By April 2025, reported fatalities exceeded 46,000, including almost 18,000 children, and at least 110,000 injured, with thousands more still missing under the rubble. The Lancet and Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor studies estimate the real numbers may be higher due to inaccessible collapsed structures and delays in rescue and reporting2426.
Widespread Displacement: Over 1.9 million Palestinians, or 80% of Gaza's population, have been internally displaced according to the UN and Al Jazeera's latest tally, with many living in temporary, unsafe shelters or tent cities.

3. Historical Comparisons
Multiply sourced evidence places the bombing of Gaza in a unique historical context:
World War II Comparisons: The total tonnage of bombs dropped on Gaza now exceeds the combined bomb tonnage used against the cities of Dresden, Hamburg, and London in WWII. For reference, the Allies dropped approximately 3,900 tonnes on Dresden, 9,000 tonnes on Hamburg, and 19,000 tonnes on London during the Blitz—totalling roughly 32,000 tonnes. By contrast, Gaza has seen over 70,000 tonnes dropped in less than a year, in a territory smaller than Philadelphia13.
Nuclear Yield Equivalency: The Hiroshima atomic bombs equivalent yield was approximately 12–15,000 tonnes of TNT. Human rights organizations and independent academics have noted the explosive yield dropped on Gaza is now equivalent to 4–6 times that of Hiroshima13.

Intensity and Saturation: When adjusting for area and population, the daily and per capita/explosives per square kilometre figures for Gaza are exponentially higher than even the most intense campaigns of modern history, including the U.S. campaign in Vietnam and the bombing of Laos and Cambodia.

It’s impossible for me to carry with this research, my blood pressure has gone way beyond safe, but please mon ami, carry on with your denial and deflection techniques. It’s what all supporters of Israel do.

It's war mon ami, **** happens, and if you don't like it, don't start one.

I see that the IDF has warned the Hamas shiny suits in Doha or wherever that, after eliminating Abu Obeida, they're next. They're all dead men walking, Mossad doesn't forget, none of them will die in their beds of old age.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Best not to even comment anymore. Protest and go directly to jail and don't even think about collecting ?200.00 on the way in.

Detective Chief Superintendent Helen Flanagan, head of operations for the Counter Terrorism Command, said: “While we cannot comment further on these specific cases now that they have been charged, I do want to reiterate that there are potentially serious consequences for those who are found guilty of an offence under the Terrorism Act.

“I therefore urge anyone considering showing public support towards Palestine Action, or indeed any other proscribed group, to reconsider.

“We know there is a great strength of feeling towards the situation in Palestine and thousands have been able and continue to be able to express their views through protest and demonstrations, without breaking counter-terrorism laws.

“Palestine Action is clearly proscribed as a terrorist group, and those showing support for this particular group, or encouraging others to do so can expect to be arrested, investigated and prosecuted.”