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[Andy_Faber]

blame.

Sorry to continue the discussion, but what are you 'blaming' yourself for? a product is being offered, you're buying it at the market rate, what's the issue? the point I'm incidentally making about Swale and your adorationof it is that neither subscribing to a sports TV package nor not subscribing are actions to be proud about, they are just one of many decisions about what to do with disposable income. I don't currently watch road cycling because its gone behind a pay wall but I'm not looking for sainthood for the decision

[Andy_Faber]

Back on the ACTUAL subject of the Thread.

Shouldn't you be ranting about the latest crooked activities of a member of the country's leadership group? You and your buddy used to delight in it. Double standards perchance?

[ramAnag]

Sorry to continue the discussion, but what are you 'blaming' yourself for? a product is being offered, you're buying it at the market rate, what's the issue? the point I'm incidentally making about Swale and your adorationof it is that neither subscribing to a sports TV package nor not subscribing are actions to be proud about, they are just one of many decisions about what to do with disposable income. I don't currently watch road cycling because its gone behind a pay wall but I'm not looking for sainthood for the decision

Why are you ‘sorry’ to continue a discussion? It’s your hypocritical personalised point scoring and evasiveness that pisses me off, never discussing.

I’m not blaming myself at a personal level, but it is a fact that the contributions millions of us make to Sky has led to inflated costs in terms of players wages, transfer fees and ticket prices etc, where as the licence fee just goes to fund all aspects of the BBC and it’s payment is a legal requirement for most.

Who is looking for a ‘sainthood’ and what am I meant to be adoring? Sadly I honestly think you’ve lost the plot lately.

[SithHappens]

Back on the ACTUAL subject of the Thread.

Shouldn't you be ranting about the latest crooked activities of a member of the country's leadership group? You and your buddy used to delight in it. Double standards perchance?

Assuming you mean Rayner, then only time will tell.

Her statement does seem reasonable and the suggestion is she has made a mistake rather than break any laws.

Of course Badenoch is all over it calling for her to quit. Ed Daveys response seems more considered.

If it comes out it was a deliberate act and proves to be unlawful then calls for her to quit might be valid.

[ramAnag]

Assuming you mean Rayner, then only time will tell.

Her statement does seem reasonable and the suggestion is she has made a mistake rather than break any laws.

Of course Badenoch is all over it calling for her to quit. Ed Daveys response seems more considered.

If it comes out it was a deliberate act and proves to be unlawful then calls for her to quit might be valid.

Almost completely agree with that very reasonable response. The only thing I’d change is to the final sentence, by saying, ‘If it comes out it was a deliberate act and proves to be unlawful then calls for her to quit WILL be valid.’
Until then….

[SithHappens]

I wonder what self proclaimed opposition leader Nigel Farage had to say about it in PMQ today?

[Andy_Faber]

Assuming you mean Rayner, then only time will tell.

Her statement does seem reasonable and the suggestion is she has made a mistake rather than break any laws.

Of course Badenoch is all over it calling for her to quit. Ed Daveys response seems more considered.

If it comes out it was a deliberate act and proves to be unlawful then calls for her to quit might be valid.

I agree with that, my comment related to double standards amongst our forum members

[ramAnag]

I agree with that, my comment related to double standards amongst our forum members

You must have missed post #4035.

[MadAmster]

I wonder what self proclaimed opposition leader Nigel Farage had to say about it in PMQ today?

attempt #2 at this as the first hasn't appeared and I forgot to copy before posting... GGGrrrrrrr

Was Farridge actually at PMQs or was he still in the USA? What was he doing in the USA? Brown nosing the one an American acquaintance of mine refers to as the "fanta flavoured f*ckwit". How did he do that? By claiming that the UK has shut down or is in the act of shutting down free speech.

This from the grifter who has banned some journalists from his party meetings and press conferences for no other reason than they were critical of him/his party.

Pot, kettle, black. Utter waste of space.

[swaledale]

I agree with that, my comment related to double standards amongst our forum members

Double standards? Mm perhaps you mean I haven't reacted to the latest Daily Fail attack on Rayner, following on from the numerous inconsequential stories about her holidays, what she wears, her socialising etc. etc.

At this moment in time the story appears to be a divorced woman buys a flat, but because she has an interest (in that she sometimes lives there with her children from her previous marriage she co-parents) in that property (she doesn't own it but benefits by living there0) it still counts a residence, which means the advice she was given re stamp duty wasn't correct. Shock horror.

I see no evidence of corruption here, bad advice perhaps? I mean there was also a lot of guff about her ministerial "grace and favour" apartment which goes with the job.

As far as I can see at the moment its an honest mistake based on advice she was given, I suspect many people aren't aware that even if you don't own a property, if you have a beneficial interest in one and you buy another that property counts as a second home for stamp duty purposes.

Yes if politically minded one could insinuate that Rayner as trying to avoid paying the additional stamp duty, neither you nor I or indeed the media know that.

Compared to say Jenrick doing a favour on planning for a Tory donor, Zahawi issuing legal threats over his tax affairs or others who own a stream of investment properties I'm really not sure how its that much of an issue, unless of course the enquiry demonstrates that she acted dishonestly, rather than under mistaken advice.

The fact that you have assumed corruption, kind of demonstrates that your personal bias is overriding, your claimed equable and even handed approach to life. Or that you believe everything that is in reported the media or internet which confirms your views which is perhaps an example of a blinkered thinking that you accuse me of.