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    Do your own research, I'm not your assistant!!

    I mentioned Khan was a cause of grief by Unite the Kingdom marchers in response to a question (by MA I think) about what the guys I knew who went to the protests were primarily concerned with. I asked them, and Andy had already noted several probabilities, so I added a couple more - woke and Khan - that had been mentioned to me.

    I didn't ask in the level of detail you seem to want - I didnt expect the Spanish Inquisition, noone does - but if I had to guess I'd say ULEZ would be one major source of grievance. That seems to be something that stirs passionate responses in some quarters in the form of destroying the cameras. not in me I would add as a greenish non driver. (In case you dont know, ULEZ is predominantly a London thing - and a few more places operating CAZ's such as Birmingham, Sheffield etc - where vehicles that are not compliant with emissions levels have to pay a surcharge for entering the "zone")

    If you want to know more I recommend a form of generative AI of your choice, but regardless you wouldnt believe the facts if the didnt align to your own alt-facts which underpin your own narrative, so Im not wasting time on your issues regarding something that impacts me only fractionally more than it impacts you simply based on proximity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Do your own research, I'm not your assistant!!

    I mentioned Khan was a cause of grief by Unite the Kingdom marchers in response to a question (by MA I think) about what the guys I knew who went to the protests were primarily concerned with. I asked them, and Andy had already noted several probabilities, so I added a couple more - woke and Khan - that had been mentioned to me.

    I didn't ask in the level of detail you seem to want - I didnt expect the Spanish Inquisition, noone does - but if I had to guess I'd say ULEZ would be one major source of grievance. That seems to be something that stirs passionate responses in some quarters in the form of destroying the cameras. not in me I would add as a greenish non driver. (In case you dont know, ULEZ is predominantly a London thing - and a few more places operating CAZ's such as Birmingham, Sheffield etc - where vehicles that are not compliant with emissions levels have to pay a surcharge for entering the "zone")

    If you want to know more I recommend a form of generative AI of your choice, but regardless you wouldnt believe the facts if the didnt align to your own alt-facts which underpin your own narrative, so Im not wasting time on your issues regarding something that impacts me only fractionally more than it impacts you simply based on proximity.
    Sorry GP, but that is a quite laughable response. You and AF alike throw in these claims time and time again and then run off chuckling, ?that?s put a spanner in the works?.

    You, and only you, cited Khan as a likely unifying factor amongst the Unite the Kingdom participants. Likewise AF chucks in some half baked notion about an anonymous area of Derby representing what he means by ?we want our country back?, but when asked to qualify/substantiate your contributions you both duck out, quite unable to do so and, in your case, babbling on about a Monty Python joke from fifty odd years ago.

    I admit I know little about Khan - Swale seems to know more - but I know plenty about various areas of Derby. So instead of running away, why not back up your suggestions. You may be right or you and AF might just be spouting those ?alternative facts? ie?more falsehoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Sorry GP, but that is a quite laughable response. You and AF alike throw in these claims time and time again and then run off chuckling, ?that?s put a spanner in the works?.

    You, and only you, cited Khan as a likely unifying factor amongst the Unite the Kingdom participants. Likewise AF chucks in some half baked notion about an anonymous area of Derby representing what he means by ?we want our country back?, but when asked to qualify/substantiate your contributions you both duck out, quite unable to do so and, in your case, babbling on about a Monty Python joke from fifty odd years ago.

    I admit I know little about Khan - Swale seems to know more - but I know plenty about various areas of Derby. So instead of running away, why not back up your suggestions. You may be right or you and AF might just be spouting those ?alternative facts? ie?more falsehoods.
    Excuse the ?’s. Site became unusable again and I’ve got better things to do than endless corrections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Sorry GP, but that is a quite laughable response. You and AF alike throw in these claims time and time again and then run off chuckling.
    I won’t speak for GP because unlike Swale and yourself we don’t cover for each other, but I suspect he’s adopted the same approach as I, and that’s to state an opinion/view that I believe to be fact, after research/experience, and let those with an open mind come back and reinforce the opinion or rebutt it with fact-based arguments. As GP said, do your own research. NB those with an open mind not dogma-dominated…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I won?’t speak for GP because unlike Swale and yourself we don?’t cover for each other, but I suspect he?’s adopted the same approach as I, and that?’s to state an opinion/view that I believe to be fact, after research/experience, and let those with an open mind come back and reinforce the opinion or rebutt it with fact-based arguments. As GP said, do your own research. NB those with an open mind not dogma-dominated?…
    Lol…you don’t cover for each other! Really? That’ll be why you used your moderator’s ‘power’ to correct GP’s spelling only the other day so that his post made some sort of sense.
    Never, ever seen you do that before with any other forum member.

    Why and how is it ‘dogma dominated’ to ask for clarification of a point made. You’ve asked me - and others - often enough and a response has always been forthcoming. We may disagree with each other but it is never blinkered to seek clarification.
    It is however, imo, mightily suspicious to try and make a point and then run away when asked to back it up with evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Lol?you don?t cover for each other! Really? That?ll be why you used your moderator?s ?power? to correct GP?s spelling only the other day so that his post made some sort of sense.
    Never, ever seen you do that before with any other forum member.

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    Now it?s interesting you should mention that, and it shows you up in terms of both your bias and your poor observation. The first comment made here regarding the Charlie Kirk issue was made by MA, who regrettably misnamed him ?Chris?. I changed MA?s post, and the subsequent response, to read ?Charlie?, and made no issue of it other than an uncontroversial comment on the original post. I doubt MA even noticed. In that case I used my mod ?powers? to clarify, the same in GP?s post

    I know you struggle with apologies and there?s no private messages so I?ll just assume it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Now it?s interesting you should mention that, and it shows you up in terms of both your bias and your poor observation. The first comment made here regarding the Charlie Kirk issue was made by MA, who regrettably misnamed him ?Chris?. I changed MA?s post, and the subsequent response, to read ?Charlie?, and made no issue of it other than an uncontroversial comment on the original post. I doubt MA even noticed. In that case I used my mod ?powers? to clarify, the same in GP?s post

    I know you struggle with apologies and there?s no private messages so I?ll just assume it
    Don’t have a problem apologising when I’m in the wrong, AF - never have done - and if I missed your editing of MA’s mistake then I’ll happily apologise for that.
    Doesn’t actually alter the fact that, imo, it’s a dangerous precedent for you, as mod, to start interfering with the posts of others and nor does it alter the fact that you habitually and invariably avoid answering questions which challenge your statements and view of the world, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Now it?s interesting you should mention that, and it shows you up in terms of both your bias and your poor observation. The first comment made here regarding the Charlie Kirk issue was made by MA, who regrettably misnamed him ?Chris?. I changed MA?s post, and the subsequent response, to read ?Charlie?, and made no issue of it other than an uncontroversial comment on the original post. I doubt MA even noticed. In that case I used my mod ?powers? to clarify, the same in GP?s post

    I know you struggle with apologies and there?s no private messages so I?ll just assume it
    Ta for the correction. I can only presume it came through my music interests. Chris King, producer, DJ, Musician. Friend of many a friend of mine although we've never met. I'd been doing some sorting of my Soul collection...

    https://soulstrutter.blogspot.com/20...-mar-2023.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadAmster View Post
    Ta for the correction. I can only presume it came through my music interests. Chris King, producer, DJ, Musician. Friend of many a friend of mine although we've never met. I'd been doing some sorting of my Soul collection...

    https://soulstrutter.blogspot.com/20...-mar-2023.html
    Should the Mod be editing posts, unless there is a potential legal issue for the Forum? I also suspect that on occasion he has done more than just edit a post, though I can't prove it, could just be the sites current issues, but I'm watching very carefully what is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    I won’t speak for GP because unlike Swale and yourself we don’t cover for each other, but I suspect he’s adopted the same approach as I, and that’s to state an opinion/view that I believe to be fact, after research/experience, and let those with an open mind come back and reinforce the opinion or rebutt it with fact-based arguments. As GP said, do your own research. NB those with an open mind not dogma-dominated…

    Oh come on please! Dogma dominated? The only dogma on here is pushed by you ad quite often GP, based on opinion with little or no facts to back it up!

    I did respond to you when you described your anecdote about your family members affected by knife crime, by relating the experiences of my daughter who has lived in London for 10 years which were different from what you described. Hardly dogma dominated just a different point of view.

    I often post actual facts, you and often GP's response is to is to criticise supposed plagiarism or "cut and paste", rather than respond to the subject posted! So before you start claiming an open mid, maybe address the fact that your very often respond with petty, points, sarcasm, insults and waffle or when your opinion has been challenged, don't respond at all.

    I really do have to laugh at your complete failure to understand that opinion is just a point of view and an anecdote is just an experience that one person has had and what the media you seem to gets your views from spews out, is very often fake news aimed at fostering a certain response.

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