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Thread: Political Thread in memory of David Reid. (R.I.P.)

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    Honestly mon ami I’m giving up all hope for mankind

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    The Great Net Zero Scam, Met Office making it up as it goes along.

    "Last August, the Daily Sceptic drew attention to the UK Met Office inventing temperature data at its fictitious ‘open’ weather station at Lowestoft. Figures were said to be compiled from “well-correlated neighbouring stations”, but research by citizen sleuth Ray Sanders found there were no such operations within a 40-mile radius. At the time, the Daily Sceptic referred to the matter as a “smoking gun” and said that unless the Met Office could finally reveal its workings out, “the only realistic conclusion to draw is that the data are invented”. No explanation has been provided but in a shock unannounced move the Met Office has now withdrawn all the Lowestoft data from its historical record back to when the site closed in 2010. Similar withdrawals of data have also occurred in the stations at Nairm Druim and Paisley. The move casts serious doubt over attempts by the Met Office to estimate temperature trends across many once open but now closed weather stations. Sanders is not inclined to minimise the scale of the problem facing the Met Office. When subject to “proper scrutiny”, the Met Office “could not substantiate its fabrication of false data and has had to delete them in their entirety”. The practice of inventing temperature data from non-existent stations is not confined to the UK. In the USA, the weather service NOAA has been charged with fabricating data from more than 30% of its reporting sites. Data are retrieved from surrounding stations and the resulting averages are given an ‘E’ for estimate. The addition of the so-called ‘ghost’ station data means NOAA’s monthly and yearly reports are “not representative of reality”, states meteorologist Anthony Watts. If such evidence was presented in a court of law it would be thrown out, he adds. Temperature measurements and estimates are a highly imprecise science. The dreadful mistake meteorological operations like the Met Office and NOAA make is to leverage their ‘trusted’ status to promote the political Net Zero fantasy by claiming an accuracy and precision that is simply not available in their rough-and-ready figures. The problem with Lowestoft is that the Met Office has been unable to back up its widely promoted “well-correlated stations” explanation. The four nearby stations to Lowestoft supplied in a Met Office public domain database are all, alas, closed. Sanders dug further and found that the only open well-correlated sites available were Cromer, a Class 4 junk site with possible unnatural errors up to 2?C at 35 miles distance, and Class 2 Weybourne, 41 miles away. Well-correlated except for the fact they are too far away to provide a monthly estimate for Lowestoft to one tenth of a degree centigrade. For its part, the Met Office refuses to name well-correlated stations for any of its calculations, claiming “it is not retained information”. Sanders has expressed incredulity at this explanation, exclaiming: “What, not ever, not even for one day? Hands up anyone who believes that!” Freedom of Information requests to obtain station names have been met with the Met Officer stating that such attempts are “vexatious” and not in the public interest."

    Doesn't seem to matter what the subject, those in charge treat us like we're idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    The Great Net Zero Scam, Met Office making it up as it goes along.

    "Last August, the Daily Sceptic drew attention to the UK Met Office inventing temperature data at its fictitious ‘open’ weather station at Lowestoft. Figures were said to be compiled from “well-correlated neighbouring stations”, but research by citizen sleuth Ray Sanders found there were no such operations within a 40-mile radius. At the time, the Daily Sceptic referred to the matter as a “smoking gun” and said that unless the Met Office could finally reveal its workings out, “the only realistic conclusion to draw is that the data are invented”. No explanation has been provided but in a shock unannounced move the Met Office has now withdrawn all the Lowestoft data from its historical record back to when the site closed in 2010. Similar withdrawals of data have also occurred in the stations at Nairm Druim and Paisley. The move casts serious doubt over attempts by the Met Office to estimate temperature trends across many once open but now closed weather stations. Sanders is not inclined to minimise the scale of the problem facing the Met Office. When subject to “proper scrutiny”, the Met Office “could not substantiate its fabrication of false data and has had to delete them in their entirety”. The practice of inventing temperature data from non-existent stations is not confined to the UK. In the USA, the weather service NOAA has been charged with fabricating data from more than 30% of its reporting sites. Data are retrieved from surrounding stations and the resulting averages are given an ‘E’ for estimate. The addition of the so-called ‘ghost’ station data means NOAA’s monthly and yearly reports are “not representative of reality”, states meteorologist Anthony Watts. If such evidence was presented in a court of law it would be thrown out, he adds. Temperature measurements and estimates are a highly imprecise science. The dreadful mistake meteorological operations like the Met Office and NOAA make is to leverage their ‘trusted’ status to promote the political Net Zero fantasy by claiming an accuracy and precision that is simply not available in their rough-and-ready figures. The problem with Lowestoft is that the Met Office has been unable to back up its widely promoted “well-correlated stations” explanation. The four nearby stations to Lowestoft supplied in a Met Office public domain database are all, alas, closed. Sanders dug further and found that the only open well-correlated sites available were Cromer, a Class 4 junk site with possible unnatural errors up to 2?C at 35 miles distance, and Class 2 Weybourne, 41 miles away. Well-correlated except for the fact they are too far away to provide a monthly estimate for Lowestoft to one tenth of a degree centigrade. For its part, the Met Office refuses to name well-correlated stations for any of its calculations, claiming “it is not retained information”. Sanders has expressed incredulity at this explanation, exclaiming: “What, not ever, not even for one day? Hands up anyone who believes that!” Freedom of Information requests to obtain station names have been met with the Met Officer stating that such attempts are “vexatious” and not in the public interest."

    Doesn't seem to matter what the subject, those in charge treat us like we're idiots.

    Net Zero and Immigration is ruining this country.
    It will be the death knell of this Labour government

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    My constant refrain to Mrs BT is that next time I’m coming back as a meteorologist, it’s the only job I know that offers ?100k salaried positions and it matters not a jot how accurate the predictions are. The BBC weather site tells us on a daily basis what weather to expect in Bolton and 90% of the time it’s wrong. ��

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    The BBC has been telling all who would listen that this summer has been the hottest on record. Well my memory of summers goes back a long way to the 1950s, and I don't need any data, fabricated or not, to say 'Oh no it wasn't, not even close', if you believe that you'll believe anything.

    Lying b@stards.

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    On a different note mon ami we have a news blackout here in Spain about the GMP killings, what’s the latest?

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    Two years ago Hamas hit the self-destroy button and Netanyahu wreaked the most dreadful revenge. Palestine was changed forever and what the future holds is anybody’s guess. Can Israel ever live a peaceful existence? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    On a different note mon ami we have a news blackout here in Spain about the GMP killings, what’s the latest?
    All gone quiet here mon ami, the rolling news has rolled on, to the Tory Party Conference, God help us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Two years ago Hamas hit the self-destroy button and Netanyahu wreaked the most dreadful revenge. Palestine was changed forever and what the future holds is anybody’s guess. Can Israel ever live a peaceful existence? I think not.
    Trump is pushing the Abraham Accords, Saudi, Egypt and Qatar are keen on peace in the region, there's even talk of bringing Iran on board but that must be unlikely. The Mad Mullahs in Tehran are the obstacle, can they be deposed or bought off ? Who knows mon ami, the whole area has changed, even the Jihadists now running Syria seem pre-disposed to co-existing with their Jewish neighbours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    On a different note mon ami we have a news blackout here in Spain about the GMP killings, what’s the latest?

    This is the ump****th time you have told us you are in Spain. The way you go on, you would have thought you were on bloody Mars

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