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    Quote Originally Posted by hopelesslyoptimistic View Post
    Pretty much every other team and coach in the PL. I have looked at the stats for about 12 clubs ranging for Arsenal, Liverpool and City at one end to Burnley and Spam at the other and Sunderland, Fulham and Bournemouth in between.

    What is fairly consistent is that those clubs make at least 4 subs each game and a lot more typically 5 and they make the subs at lot earlier.

    Some at half time to change the game but often around the 60th minute.

    Arsenal and city often make half time subs (and more than one).

    We consistently make fewer and later subs than other teams. A lot of our subs are in the from the 78th minutes or between 80 and 90 minutes.

    The game has deeper benches with up to 5 subs.

    We don’t use it for impact and we don’t use it to rotate enough - most of those other clubs do.

    Farke’s record is fairly mediocre and Leeds had the best squad in each of the last two seasons - last year by a mile so he was expected to get us up.

    Increasingly, he talks about his own exploits as a striker as if he understands DCL etc. His record was decent but he was playing a lot in regional (which no longer exist) not national football so equivalent to L2 here at best but more likely the national league division 2.

    When he speaks he often talks about himself which comes across to me as insure or narcissistic.

    He is a decent coach and has found a niche in the leagues below the top league. It seems in the top league his flaws get exposed.

    As I have said elsewhere, I’ve been fairly impressed with what he has done so far but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t got a lot of improving to do.

    If you are a young player you don’t sign for Leeds to break through - he has said publicly several times he likes youngsters on the bench but not on the pitch. A lot of talented 16 and 17 year olds left this summer including some to spurs. I don’t think any of that is a co-incidence.

    The game has moved on and I’m not sure he has caught up. The way he speaks to and treats some players I really really don’t like.
    to summarise...... early days for Farkes newly introduced base 4-3-3..... which he has changed from the effective based 4-2-3-1 used successfully last season .... which is encouraging......not to defensive and allows quicker build-ups.....with the defensive shape kept well within it.... helped by an improved more physical midfield.......

    but someone had to give way for our present PL early days set up....... so it was the Tanaka silky skills that were benched.... for now anyway......... a decision made in my eyes due to our increased focus on intensity when out of possession...... an area that our metrics dept decided Tanaka was a weak link....... as we do like to play direct for Lewin.

    so i do see Farke as indeed having supplied detailed further greater tactical flexibility in our Premier League approach so far..... using what he had available for the individual match opponents we have played..... so far.

    all done with trying to play football with an attacking mentality currently....... which should be applauded....... as playing such football comes with risks...... but it suits the majority of our present players skills level..... and fans in the main like it.....

    if certain goal chances had been taken...... i am sure that you would still not be happy with him at our helm..... looking at substitution timings of other PL teams then 60 plus minutes is the norm from what i have been shown....... but i do not personally think we should have been chasing any of our past tight games by changing players...... as we are not quite good enough yet as an experienced team unit yet..... maybe another 5 games will tighten that aspect of really knowing one another on the pitch.... for me we have to keep it real and in perspective.

    but its great that objective spectacled eyes can bring alternate views into debates to express opinions... for consideration and done with respect...... enjoy your weekend and stay safe.

    MOT

    👀 maybe a decent weekend read for you J.......about how the peoples game fell into the hands of the wealthy global elite..... and what does that mean for the fans left behind.......
    investigative journalist Aidrian Goldberg and big Baggies fan.......uncovers how English football was transformed from a community asset into a globalised, billion pound business through the murky trails of club ownership, political compromise and regulatory failure.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsORichSenior_ View Post
    to summarise...... early days for Farkes newly introduced base 4-3-3..... which he has changed from the effective based 4-2-3-1 used successfully last season .... which is encouraging......not to defensive and allows quicker build-ups.....with the defensive shape kept well within it.... helped by an improved more physical midfield.......

    but someone had to give way for our present PL early days set up....... so it was the Tanaka silky skills that were benched.... for now anyway......... a decision made in my eyes due to our increased focus on intensity when out of possession...... an area that our metrics dept decided Tanaka was a weak link....... as we do like to play direct for Lewin.

    so i do see Farke as indeed having supplied detailed further greater tactical flexibility in our Premier League approach so far..... using what he had available for the individual match opponents we have played..... so far.

    all done with trying to play football with an attacking mentality currently....... which should be applauded....... as playing such football comes with risks...... but it suits the majority of our present players skills level..... and fans in the main like it.....

    if certain goal chances had been taken...... i am sure that you would still not be happy with him at our helm..... looking at substitution timings of other PL teams then 60 plus minutes is the norm from what i have been shown....... but i do not personally think we should have been chasing any of our past tight games by changing players...... as we are not quite good enough yet as an experienced team unit yet..... maybe another 5 games will tighten that aspect of really knowing one another on the pitch.... for me we have to keep it real and in perspective.

    but its great that objective spectacled eyes can bring alternate views into debates to express opinions... for consideration and done with respect...... enjoy your weekend and stay safe.

    MOT

    👀 maybe a decent weekend read for you J.......about how the peoples game fell into the hands of the wealthy global elite..... and what does that mean for the fans left behind.......
    investigative journalist Aidrian Goldberg and big Baggies fan.......uncovers how English football was transformed from a community asset into a globalised, billion pound business through the murky trails of club ownership, political compromise and regulatory failure.....

    I never said Tanaka should start - was saying Farke is rubbish at subs and giving people game time. Said from two games I’ve been at Stach needed subbing at 60 mins and in one game he stayed on and we lost and in another it was about 83 mins.

    Look at the stats I looked at every game this season for 12 PL clubs to see when they make subs and those will have included all clubs but for fewer games. We are the slowest to make subs and make them later bar possibly West Ham - Spam are not doing so great.

    Read a lot about the game and the changes some of which are inevitable but still sad.

    Have a good weekend too and we clearly disagree on Farke’s flaws but the world would be boring if there was nothing to debate. I know you know a few in the inside of the game and at Leeds through work but I do too.

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