Election Year or Fear!

[swaledale]

Credit to 47 for getting a temporary cease fire in place. And that, thus far, is all it is. A temporary halt to the bombing.

Like most folk, I really hope this becomes a permanent peace. However, alongside the 20 points in the plan, there's one, IMO, pressing problem that needs to solved if there is to be lasting peace. That is almost 80 years in which "settlers" have stolen land from Palestinians in Israel, bulldozed their homes or simply taken them over, burning and bulldozing of Palestinian olive groves, assault and murder of Palestinians. All without any settler being arrested, tried and, if found guilty, sentenced and jailed. It is this that is one of the major reasons Hamas exists. Failure to remedy it will see more attacks on Israeli Jews and Zionists which will instigate more bombing of Gaza and the West Bank.

If the root cause isn't addressed, we will get the same outcome.

So he has applied pressure to "Bibi", after being embarrassed by the Doha bombing which he was informed of after the fact, but could have done this with a better outcome in January after taking office. Trump's "peace plan" has no mechanism for addressing the issues that created the situation, including as you say the occupation of the West bank and the denial of self determination to the Palestinians.

Welcome back to a levelled Gaza and it seems one still where Hamas has a significant presence. So 60,000+ civilians, plus countless 1,000's injured has achieved precisely **** all!!

Its welcome that Israel has stopped bombing civilians, with weapons supplied by the US and UK amongst others, but Israel isn't being held to account for it flagrant breaches of international law and Hamas is still armed and dangerous. Plus ca change!!

The orange chimp wants a prize for doing what?

[MadAmster]

This 20 point plan. Isn't it merely a rehash of Biden's plan of 2024 that got as far as this one has before the cease fire was breached during phase 2?

[SithHappens]

This 20 point plan. Isn't it merely a rehash of Biden's plan of 2024 that got as far as this one has before the cease fire was breached during phase 2?

Apparantly so

[SithHappens]

Trump continously telling Meloni how beautiful she is was truly cringe worthy.

Of course to be expected from this 'saint' as he was called earlier on the thread.

Guess for someone found guilty of rape this is probably saint like.

[ramAnag]

Just got back from a magnificent performance of ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’ at Nottingham Playhouse.
Utterly brilliant production of one of my all time favourite books.
Sad though that the climate regarding race relations is now less optimistic than I felt it to be when I first read it sometime in the late sixties/early seventies.

As an aside…also got back from a month in Spain a week ago. During the whole 28 days when we went out just about every other day I spent a grand total of 7 euros on parking and that included being stung for 6 euros on our last day at Segovia Catherdral.
Today, parking with Q Park in Nottingham between 12.30 and 4.30 cost 13.20GBP and that is likely to go up to 17.50GBP because we over ran by 20 mins. Why do we put up with such complete rip offs in this country?

[SithHappens]

I don't know but would guess uk cars per square mile us higher than a lot of other countries

Of course parking charges in town centres are short sighted but those who run councils don't seem to have the intellect to understand it deters shoppers etc.

On thr subject of parking, why did they shut the cockpit car park in derby? It must be 3 years now and nothing ever done with it.

[Andy_Faber]

why did they shut the cockpit car park in derby? It must be 3 years now and nothing ever done with it.

The operators deemed it uneconomical to keep it open as it wasn't generating enough revenue to cover ongoing costs and make a profit. A white elephant basically and probably IMO unuseable as anything else

[Geoff Parkstone]

But how many Spanish parking tickets will you have at home when "the dealings done"...

[Andy_Faber]

As an aside…also got back from a month in Spain a week ago. During the whole 28 days when we went out just about every other day I spent a grand total of 7 euros on parking and that included being stung for 6 euros on our last day at Segovia Catherdral.
Today, parking with Q Park in Nottingham between 12.30 and 4.30 cost 13.20GBP and that is likely to go up to 17.50GBP because we over ran by 20 mins. Why do we put up with such complete rip offs in this country?

Because, and this is in no way a dig at you especially if there was someone with limited mobility with you, in the case of parking its laziness. Same town different gig, I went to the 100 (sorry GP) at Trent Bridge and could have parked a mile away for free. I know there was on road parking available, my sis called me to say so. But I couldn't be bothered with the walk so paid ?6.50 to park maybe two minutes from the gate. If everyone, me included, parked further away for free the pay to park enterprises would have no business. Just my opinion, and as like you I've been in Europe recently there are far, far more fundamental issues where UK have 'let things slip'

[ramAnag]

Because, and this is in no way a dig at you especially if there was someone with limited mobility with you, in the case of parking its laziness. Same town different gig, I went to the 100 (sorry GP) at Trent Bridge and could have parked a mile away for free. I know there was on road parking available, my sis called me to say so. But I couldn't be bothered with the walk so paid ?6.50 to park maybe two minutes from the gate. If everyone, me included, parked further away for free the pay to park enterprises would have no business. Just my opinion, and as like you I've been in Europe recently there are far, far more fundamental issues where UK have 'let things slip'

As it happens I wasn’t in the company of anyone with ‘limited mobility’ and I agree there are more fundamental issues.
It was just an observation, especially as we’d been listening to a discussion on the increasing cost of living at a time of huge - and imo unacceptable- supermarket profits, on the way to Nottingham.
As another example there’s a particular wine I’m fond of. Costs nearly 12.00 GBP in Majestic and just under 3 Euros in any Mercadonna. Why?
Petrol more expensive in Spain (not diesel!) Just about everything else…cheaper.