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Thread: It?s Not Just Money But Managers!

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    It?s Not Just Money But Managers!

    Of course money helps to bring in quality players but it?s also the manager who can work miracles with bare resources and playing style.

    Always loved Derek McInnes and Hearts are top of the league playing great football. Hearts could never match Celtic and Rangers for spend. Ever!

    Never rated Darren Moore as a manager and Port Vale are in the relegation zone so no surprise there! The Bradford manager on the contrary his doing a brilliant job and they are just off the top spot having been promoted with Vale. Great football being played!

    Hull, Stoke, Bristol and Millwall are playing good football and that?s down to their managers. I can?t even remember Coventry spending much pre season and their football is fast and quality even getting the best out of Asante. To think we used him as a lone striker!

    Managers can shape a side on next to nothing. Some say get McInnes which I would love but that?s not going to happen! Any side with McInnes will play like he played - to try and win the game and cover every blade of grass!

    Apart from a manager it?s fantastic recruitment! Even this year with dire finances we spent six million on Heggebo and Campbell which many would say was a waste of money when we don?t have any pace or creativity in midfield.

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    Completely correct, I don?t think there?s a positive bone in Mason?s body, if I was in the changing room listening to that cockney drawl I would fall asleep, we?re back to 1999, oh for a Gary Megson type manager, these modern day tippy tappy managers don?t work in the Championship, you have to earn the right to play by matching the opposition for determination, passion and hard work something dearly missing in today?s team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombers right foot View Post
    Completely correct, I don?t think there?s a positive bone in Mason?s body, if I was in the changing room listening to that cockney drawl I would fall asleep, we?re back to 1999, oh for a Gary Megson type manager, these modern day tippy tappy managers don?t work in the Championship, you have to earn the right to play by matching the opposition for determination, passion and hard work something dearly missing in today?s team
    Said so almost from start - did wobble with our 2 wins but he's afraid to win , he want premiership tactics from average championship players. Sideways and back that is from the manager and it won't work not now not ever

    Wrong man wrong tactics and we are stuck with him we ain't got the money to fire him so it's dire football. dire results
    ..............
    BTW.............In Greek mythology, Cassandra or Casandra was a Trojan priestess dedicated to the god Apollo and fated by him to utter true prophecies but never to be believed.

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    Al. Coventry are getting the best out of Asante because they're playing him in his natural position as a wide right sided forward. He also has closer support from other forwards who are actually fit.

    For the most part he only played as an out of position lone striker for us due to a combination of ongoing injuries and poor recruitment. It wasn't because anyone thought it was his best position.

    Besides, if it had been up to you you'd have had him down the glue factory for being a donkey. Taken from memory: 'cannot fault his effort but he's a poor footballer and can't finish' or words to that effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    Al. Coventry are getting the best out of Asante because they're playing him in his natural position as a wide right sided forward. He also has closer support from other forwards who are actually fit.

    For the most part he only played as an out of position lone striker for us due to a combination of ongoing injuries and poor recruitment. It wasn't because anyone thought it was his best position.

    Besides, if it had been up to you you'd have had him down the glue factory for being a donkey. Taken from memory: 'cannot fault his effort but he's a poor footballer and can't finish' or words to that effect.
    Very true Dan. Like many I didn?t rate him when he was with us apart from his effort as he missed a lot of one on one chances. Just shows what a decent manager can do to a player and those that surround him. Well done to the lad.

    Whilst at Boro many of their supporters speaking in pubs did not rate Mowatt when there or Junior. Junior is much better than Wallace but for me he?s never a Premier player or Harvey Barnes.

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    It's fair to say SIJ is still settling in but on current form he is a significant downgrade on Tom Fellows who is a huge loss for us.

    This suggests to me SIJ might not even make the bench at Southampton at the moment never mind get a game in the Premier League.

    Wallace still has a role to play if he regains his fitness and I don't mean at either end of a pantomime donkey either by the way 😆 😄 😂

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    For me Asante always had the potential, we just did not know how to use him.

    In my mind we are struggling because of the Nestor practice. We do not have the players perhaps to fulfill the model or quite possibly the players are just not behind it.9

    Either way, the football is pretty boring and the results indicate something is wrong. Not sure yet whether it?s the coach or the model. However, the one thing is, nothing has changed in well over 12 months in regards to results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On Balance View Post
    For me Asante always had the potential, we just did not know how to use him.

    In my mind we are struggling because of the Nestor practice. We do not have the players perhaps to fulfill the model or quite possibly the players are just not behind it.9

    Either way, the football is pretty boring and the results indicate something is wrong. Not sure yet whether it?s the coach or the model. However, the one thing is, nothing has changed in well over 12 months in regards to results.
    I do think the model has been misunderstood. It’s the basic principles most clubs now follow. We will put the ball on the ground and play 433 - thats about it.

    I think our modernisation has been seen as the reason why we are failing. We have just transitioned from an owner that nearly plummeted us to depths of league one and administration. The whole team needed an overhaul and we needed to save 10s of millions of pounds to satisfy FFP.

    Selling your best players, replacing them with cheaper ones and still being competitive would be a fine feat. Us being competitive at the top of the table was unrealistic and will take a couple more transfer windows, maybe longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggiematt View Post
    I do think the model has been misunderstood. It’s the basic principles most clubs now follow. We will put the ball on the ground and play 433 - thats about it.

    I think our modernisation has been seen as the reason why we are failing. We have just transitioned from an owner that nearly plummeted us to depths of league one and administration. The whole team needed an overhaul and we needed to save 10s of millions of pounds to satisfy FFP.

    Selling your best players, replacing them with cheaper ones and still being competitive would be a fine feat. Us being competitive at the top of the table was unrealistic and will take a couple more transfer windows, maybe longer.

    Recruitment has always been poor Matt and still not great. Six million on Heggebo and Campbell who are average at best could have got us another Grimes albeit cheaper. Loans still poor as Junior whilst better than Wallace is poor compared to Fellows. Even Boro fans said he was not great!

    So have we improved the side and replaced players with money well spent? No! Phillips and Mepham are fine but then we lost Heggem, Bartley and AJ who were good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Recruitment has always been poor Matt and still not great. Six million on Heggebo and Campbell who are average at best could have got us another Grimes albeit cheaper. Loans still poor as Junior whilst better than Wallace is poor compared to Fellows. Even Boro fans said he was not great!

    So have we improved the side and replaced players with money well spent? No! Phillips and Mepham are fine but then we lost Heggem, Bartley and AJ who were good!
    Our business overall has been really good for a club in financial difficulty:

    Heggem - 600k
    Price - 2.5m
    Mepham - 1m
    Campbell - 1m
    Johnstone - 3.5m
    Phillips - 3m
    Styles - 600k

    I still think Heggebo might be ok once he has adjusted. He looks the only suspect transfer in 2 windows! Appreciate Bany might go in that list but we have had bad luck with injuries.

    You are seriously calling AJ and Bartley good having slated them season after season?

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