swale "His main theme was that the country was basically ****ed. Largely because of Brexit. Odd then that he seems to have memory of being the main architect behind the Brexit vote. Of course he claims, that had he been involved he would have done it all differently. Deregulated everything and never traded with the EU ever again...."

But isnt that what you've been saying for the last 5 years? Now when he says it you deride him. Cant win can he!

IMHO If we had stayed in we would likely be better off economically today (but its hard to know for sure) and there is an argument that if we had done a full Brexit properly we MIGHT have been better off, but again who can tell - apart from you!

Problem was that they fudged it, didnt have the conviction to go the whole hog and the bodge left us with all the downside and none of the potential upside. So in a way he's right - if one was to go down the Brexit path (and the majority mandated it) - then do it properly, rather than trying to get everyone somewhat satisfied and actually getting noone satisfied.