Eddie FFS

[Zippity]

Agree with Ian, if we play remotely like this at the mackems and get turned over, it'll not be pretty for Eddie or any of the team. (I'm not talking about losing, that can happen in any game, but if we're as meek as today...)

[bix01]

Agree with Ian, if we play remotely like this at the mackems and get turned over, it'll not be pretty for Eddie or any of the team. (I'm not talking about losing, that can happen in any game, but if we're as meek as today...)

The Sunderland game falls right between Leverkusen in The Champions League and Fulham in The League Cup, I have to admit, I’m a bit wary about it already

[OwdBillCook]

If we play like today t& West Ham then the elephant will be well out of the room. It will be on the pitch, stomping on us and sh!tting all over us.

Bugger - too much beer, off to bed....

[Zippity]

If we play like today t& West Ham then the elephant will be well out of the room. It will be on the pitch, stomping on us and sh!tting all over us.

Bugger - too much beer, off to bed....

😁😁😁

[Nufcian]

Been thinking about it, and what I have settled on…

What is our game plan? Because I have no f**king clue what it is supposed to be!

It looks like we are hoping for something to happen, without any clear patterns of play or real impression that players know where their team mates will/should be… and maybe that is part of why we give the ball away so much.

Easy to say I know, and hard to think they don’t drill stuff in training… but I’m not seeing it on the pitch.

We were high press for a good while, aggressive to get the ball back if out of possession and aggressive getting forward… now it’s disjointed and apart from moments of brilliance it’s been mostly poor football.

I dunno, not sure what to think really, but we do have a lot of good players, but there’s no cohesion to turn out a good team performance on the pitch these days.

[toonviking]

Aye, two things:

1. Start running and pressing again
2. Play full backs that will be a threat going forward.

If we do that, the results will come.

[Zippity]

We've got the balance totally wrong, ever since the first half of the Liverpool game, when we looked like our old selves.

We've taken the intensity out of our league games to try to spread out our workload over the different competitions we're in and lessoe the incidences of injuries which have previously plagued us.

And I get that but we've gone way too far the other way. And without it, the players look like they don't know what to do or where they should be on the pitch. The result is what we're seeing now. Yesyerday and West Ham were easily as bad as some of the worst performances under Bruce and McClaren and that is about as damning an indictment as there can be and not one I say lightly, either.

Eddie is still, for me, absolutely the right man to take us forward. He has 100% earned the right to fix the problems we have and anyone who thinks otherwise is being hugely unfair on him...and clearly hasn't been following us long enough.

Doesn;t mean he's above criticism, though. His loyalty to certain players could be his undoing and I genuinely can't fathom why he didn't take Dan Burn off after the yellow when every single person watching could see what was going to happen. Plus, Woltermade must be being told to drop deep and that patently wasn't working either.

[Jammy89]

One thing I was thinking, with all the extra games we lose time on the training pitch.

We know how much Eddie values all time there and going into get detail, is that some of it, he's not getting all detail or plans into people?

[Cannylad]

We've got the balance totally wrong, ever since the first half of the Liverpool game, when we looked like our old selves.

We've taken the intensity out of our league games to try to spread out our workload over the different competitions we're in and lessoe the incidences of injuries which have previously plagued us.

And I get that but we've gone way too far the other way. And without it, the players look like they don't know what to do or where they should be on the pitch. The result is what we're seeing now. Yesyerday and West Ham were easily as bad as some of the worst performances under Bruce and McClaren and that is about as damning an indictment as there can be and not one I say lightly, either.

Eddie is still, for me, absolutely the right man to take us forward. He has 100% earned the right to fix the problems we have and anyone who thinks otherwise is being hugely unfair on him...and clearly hasn't been following us long enough.

Doesn;t mean he's above criticism, though. His loyalty to certain players could be his undoing and I genuinely can't fathom why he didn't take Dan Burn off after the yellow when every single person watching could see what was going to happen. Plus, Woltermade must be being told to drop deep and that patently wasn't working either.

Totally right about Woltermade, here's a 6' 6'' giant and he hovers around the half way mark most of the game. I realise he's a different kind of striker to what's 'is name but for me every time a winger gets the ball he should know where his target is immediately. Voltermade is a smart player and should be given free reign, anything is better than what I see every 'kin week.

[toonviking]

One thing I was thinking, with all the extra games we lose time on the training pitch.

We know how much Eddie values all time there and going into get detail, is that some of it, he's not getting all detail or plans into people?

Agree with this theory.

As for Woltemade, it also seems like he likes to drop deep. Or maybe hes pushed deep by the opposition... at least both west ham and brentford closed him down well in the deeper positions. Still we tried to play through him.

Again, full backs on overlap and speed from the wingers is key I think.