Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

In other news…apparently Andrew Mountbatten Windsor has his hyphen back. Well duck me, thank goodness for that!

[Geoff Parkstone]

In other news…apparently Andrew Mountbatten Windsor has his hyphen back. Well duck me, thank goodness for that!

I must have missed this one, but then so have you as you havent given him a hyphen either?

[Andy_Faber]

Question for you or AF. Do you think the BBC clip changed the tone/aim/intention behind Trump?s angry words to a largely disappointed and discontented mob and if so, in what way were the BBC lacking accuracy?

If you mean does it change the perception of viewers, yes definitely. If for instance the producers/editors had retained the whole of the first part of the edit, in which Trump almost sounds conciliatory, the tone would have been completely different

If you means would that clip alone have had a different impact to the whole speech, I don't know, I can't put myself in the mindset of someone willing to do harm to people or property, there may be others here more disposed to comment on that

My personal observations, and my jaundiced view of the media is conditioned by these observations, is that the media do this all the time (see my own and Swale's comments above) sometimes to support an agenda, sometimes I'm sure just for buggeration, and it looks like someone is about to get a very bloody nose as a result

[ramAnag]

I must have missed this one, but then so have you as you havent given him a hyphen either?

I’m not sure he’s got it yet. I think they may have to find it first. Knowing him, which fortunately I don’t, possibly confused it with hymen.

[ramAnag]

If you mean does it change the perception of viewers, yes definitely. If for instance the producers/editors had retained the whole of the first part of the edit, in which Trump almost sounds conciliatory, the tone would have been completely different

If you means would that clip alone have had a different impact to the whole speech, I don't know, I can't put myself in the mindset of someone willing to do harm to people or property, there may be others here more disposed to comment on that

My personal observations, and my jaundiced view of the media is conditioned by these observations, is that the media do this all the time (see my own and Swale's comments above) sometimes to support an agenda, sometimes I'm sure just for buggeration, and it looks like someone is about to get a very bloody nose as a result

I’m not sure anyone on here would be willing to do harm to people or property, although I might wish it on two or three current politicians and believe that the world would be a better place without them.

I don’t agree with your first paragraph but that in no way means you’re wrong.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I’m not sure he’s got it yet. I think they may have to find it first. Knowing him, which fortunately I don’t, possibly confused it with hymen.

OOOH how rude, but of course on that basis he may have lost the hymens of others rather than himself

[Andy_Faber]

I?m not sure anyone on here would be willing to do harm to people or property, although I might wish it on two or three current politicians and believe that the world would be a better place without them.

I don?t agree with your first paragraph but that in no way means you?re wrong.

I was referring to football-related rumbles not premeditated violence

Interesting that over the past few days there appears to be a bit of a gloves-off attitude around current and ex BBC journos, I mentioned Katy Razzle earlier, Emily Maitless has pitched in, and 'I can't remember who' has 'outed' The Telegraph as 'right leaning' which of course it is but its breaking a bit of an unwritten rule to do so and will ellicit who knows what level of response

I think Swale suggested that HMG should keep out of the spat with Trump, I disagree simply because Keir Starmer appears to have generated some sort of respect/friendship between them and I think BBC need an ally at the mo

[ramAnag]

I was referring to football-related rumbles not premeditated violence

Interesting that over the past few days there appears to be a bit of a gloves-off attitude around current and ex BBC journos, I mentioned Katy Razzle earlier, Emily Maitless has pitched in, and 'I can't remember who' has 'outed' The Telegraph as 'right leaning' which of course it is but its breaking a bit of an unwritten rule to do so and will ellicit who knows what level of response

I think Swale suggested that HMG should keep out of the spat with Trump, I disagree simply because Keir Starmer appears to have generated some sort of respect/friendship between them and I think BBC need an ally at the mo

I think Swale suggested he’d be disappointed if the BBC apologised or if HMG tried to force such an apology.
Beyond acknowledging and apologising for a poor edit, I feel much the same way too, although I take your point because politics at the highest level involves far more pragmatism and less sentiment than the thoughts of we, mere men in the street, and Starmer, imo, deserves praise for his development of a relationship with a man I regard as a dangerous, odious and hateful liar, albeit one who happens to be the POTUS.

Got a great deal of respect for Emily Maitless. She usually speaks sense imo. The fact that Trump seems to be currently fighting about four court battles with different media outlets speaks volumes, again imo.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Good news.... bad news

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd7rp5zj484o

why there not here?

[Geoff Parkstone]

I’m not sure anyone on here would be willing to do harm to people or property, although I might wish it on two or three current politicians and believe that the world would be a better place without them.

So thats Starmer, Lammy and who?