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No idea why you’d say that, but if you ask Google, William Hill or the BBC you’ll get much the same answer and my guess is it’ll be a woman, with Jayne Turton the current favourite.
Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
I doubt it’s going anywhere other than to provoke an, on this occasion, largely pleasantly polite exchange of views.

From my point of view I suppose it’s just symptomatic of what, imo, is wrong with society. The gap between the haves and the have nots has grown too large. That doesn’t really matter so much where things like cars, holidays, houses and clothes are the issue, but - again imo - it matters more where health, education and social care are concerned.

I don’t pretend to have the answer, but the question is, do we want to live in a society where the die is already largely cast from cradle to grave as far as achievement, health and provision for long term care are concerned, or is there a fairer alternative?
So do you think you had a privileged upbringing and/or do you feel you have underachieved?

Personally I didn't and I don't. People can overcome disadvantages of birth (or waste advantages) if they want to and put effort in. Not everyone I accept, but if everyone did where would the next generation of "unskilled workers" - who are critical to society functioning - come from (see COVID).

Your fatalistic view of no hope is really rather depressing - it rather denies the value of the role you had in pre retirement life