OT Border Control State of Emergency

[MillerBill]

This should be a national emergency but unfortunately the politicians don’t care about what’s happening to the women and girls of this country.
Imaging illegally entering a country getting food and accommodation and you just go out and drag a 15 year old girl into a park and rape her.
Not one politician speaks about it they don’t care about anything or anyone.
They are protected from the police, solicitors anyone from the establishment that could make a difference but money comes before our own citizens.
The silence is deafening and we all know whose side the above are on.
Shameful but expected.

Initially, these monsters were identified as two ****agers from Leamington by the authorities, just like we were told about the Southport murderer,we were told came from Wales.Pathetic cover up yet again!!! One of their lawyers feared this barbaric assault would cause riots if it went public.

[KerrAvon]

This should be a national emergency but unfortunately the politicians don?’t care about what?’s happening to the women and girls of this country.
Imaging illegally entering a country getting food and accommodation and you just go out and drag a 15 year old girl into a park and rape her.
Not one politician speaks about it they don?’t care about anything or anyone.
They are protected from the police, solicitors anyone from the establishment that could make a difference but money comes before our own citizens.
The silence is deafening and we all know whose side the above are on.
Shameful but expected.

It's interesting that you mention deafening silences. The abuse of women and girls is endemic in this country (and probably every country, if truth be told). If you want to see that in action, go and sit in the back of a Magistrates Court that is dealing with 'overnight remand prisoners' and you will see a procession of men charged with domestic abuse with offences up to and including rape. It's always the position, but the numbers shoot up even higher at Christmas and during major football tournaments, presumably as the consumption of alcohol works its magic.

Even a current Reform MP (James McMurdock) has served a prison sentence for beating up a girlfriend, but that's okay because Nigel says so.

I may be wrong and am open to correction, but I don't recall anyone starting threads about that reality for women and girls in this country.

So, can someone please explain what the fascination with the ethnicity of offenders is all about? It doesn't just extend to violence against women. When someone drove his car into a load of football supporters, the thread that was started on here quickly fizzled out when it turned out that the driver was white, British and a former Royal Marine. Is anyone willing to pretend that thread wouldn't have run into hundreds of posts if it turned out to be someone with a foreign sounding name?

Is it that the posters who join in the feeding frenzy following cases that like that in Leamington think it is somehow worse for a women or child to be abused by someone who isn't British? You would struggle to sell that to a victim.

Is it that some people think that if 'our' women are going to be abused it is going to be 'us' that does it? I would have been hesitant to make such a seemingly outrageous suggestion, but for the fascinating statistics that showed how many of the men involved in the post-Southport riots had a history of being arrested for domestic abuse.

If the argument is that non-British men are more likely to commit offences against women and girls then I'd like to see the data that supports that (reliable and age adjusted figures, not some random Tweet from a hate merchant).

[MillerBill]

That's right Kerr.ignore the increasing numbers of imported criminals,like all lefty liberals do.Sod our women and children's safety.

[Yak]

It's interesting that you mention deafening silences. The abuse of women and girls is endemic in this country (and probably every country, if truth be told). If you want to see that in action, go and sit in the back of a Magistrates Court that is dealing with 'overnight remand prisoners' and you will see a procession of men charged with domestic abuse with offences up to and including rape. It's always the position, but the numbers shoot up even higher at Christmas and during major football tournaments, presumably as the consumption of alcohol works its magic.

Even a current Reform MP (James McMurdock) has served a prison sentence for beating up a girlfriend, but that's okay because Nigel says so.

I may be wrong and am open to correction, but I don't recall anyone starting threads about that reality for women and girls in this country.

So, can someone please explain what the fascination with the ethnicity of offenders is all about? It doesn't just extend to violence against women. When someone drove his car into a load of football supporters, the thread that was started on here quickly fizzled out when it turned out that the driver was white, British and a former Royal Marine. Is anyone willing to pretend that thread wouldn't have run into hundreds of posts if it turned out to be someone with a foreign sounding name?

Is it that the posters who join in the feeding frenzy following cases that like that in Leamington think it is somehow worse for a women or child to be abused by someone who isn't British? You would struggle to sell that to a victim.

Is it that some people think that if 'our' women are going to be abused it is going to be 'us' that does it? I would have been hesitant to make such a seemingly outrageous suggestion, but for the fascinating statistics that showed how many of the men involved in the post-Southport riots had a history of being arrested for domestic abuse.

If the argument is that non-British men are more likely to commit offences against women and girls then I'd like to see the data that supports that (reliable and age adjusted figures, not some random Tweet from a hate merchant).

Yes the old white people do this too tactic.
Start a thread on these crimes and I’ll comment
These have entered our country illegally and shouldn’t be here.
You can pretend it’s not an ever growing problem if you want to but it’s a national emergency. I’m not surprised you justify it because other people commit crimes too that’s the problem you always do. I work for a domestic abuse charity I know the issues but that’s got nothing to do with what risks are being put on our girls and women by importing criminals and *** offenders. Take your fingers out of your ears and accept we have a major problem now.

[Stansmate]

Another one in Manchester today -26 yr old Afghan raped two 14 yr old girls and in custody

Two more kids scared for life - got to sort this cos people are gerrin really angry !!

[Stovicmiller]

It's interesting that you mention deafening silences. The abuse of women and girls is endemic in this country (and probably every country, if truth be told). If you want to see that in action, go and sit in the back of a Magistrates Court that is dealing with 'overnight remand prisoners' and you will see a procession of men charged with domestic abuse with offences up to and including rape. It's always the position, but the numbers shoot up even higher at Christmas and during major football tournaments, presumably as the consumption of alcohol works its magic.

Even a current Reform MP (James McMurdock) has served a prison sentence for beating up a girlfriend, but that's okay because Nigel says so.

I may be wrong and am open to correction, but I don't recall anyone starting threads about that reality for women and girls in this country.

So, can someone please explain what the fascination with the ethnicity of offenders is all about? It doesn't just extend to violence against women. When someone drove his car into a load of football supporters, the thread that was started on here quickly fizzled out when it turned out that the driver was white, British and a former Royal Marine. Is anyone willing to pretend that thread wouldn't have run into hundreds of posts if it turned out to be someone with a foreign sounding name?

Is it that the posters who join in the feeding frenzy following cases that like that in Leamington think it is somehow worse for a women or child to be abused by someone who isn't British? You would struggle to sell that to a victim.

Is it that some people think that if 'our' women are going to be abused it is going to be 'us' that does it? I would have been hesitant to make such a seemingly outrageous suggestion, but for the fascinating statistics that showed how many of the men involved in the post-Southport riots had a history of being arrested for domestic abuse.

If the argument is that non-British men are more likely to commit offences against women and girls then I'd like to see the data that supports that (reliable and age adjusted figures, not some random Tweet from a hate merchant).

. Yes we have our own grown child molesters , rapists , but we don’t need to import more. If you cannot see that then you’re not has bright has I thought you were. We see it all the time, two men from York, a man from Sheffield men from Manchester , they may be living in these towns cities but that’s not where they are from and thats being hidden from the public. The two men who raped a 15 year old girl their solicitor wanted it kept quiet where they were from .

[howdydoo]

It's interesting that you mention deafening silences. The abuse of women and girls is endemic in this country (and probably every country, if truth be told). If you want to see that in action, go and sit in the back of a Magistrates Court that is dealing with 'overnight remand prisoners' and you will see a procession of men charged with domestic abuse with offences up to and including rape. It's always the position, but the numbers shoot up even higher at Christmas and during major football tournaments, presumably as the consumption of alcohol works its magic.

Even a current Reform MP (James McMurdock) has served a prison sentence for beating up a girlfriend, but that's okay because Nigel says so.

I may be wrong and am open to correction, but I don't recall anyone starting threads about that reality for women and girls in this country.

So, can someone please explain what the fascination with the ethnicity of offenders is all about? It doesn't just extend to violence against women. When someone drove his car into a load of football supporters, the thread that was started on here quickly fizzled out when it turned out that the driver was white, British and a former Royal Marine. Is anyone willing to pretend that thread wouldn't have run into hundreds of posts if it turned out to be someone with a foreign sounding name?

Is it that the posters who join in the feeding frenzy following cases that like that in Leamington think it is somehow worse for a women or child to be abused by someone who isn't British? You would struggle to sell that to a victim.

Is it that some people think that if 'our' women are going to be abused it is going to be 'us' that does it? I would have been hesitant to make such a seemingly outrageous suggestion, but for the fascinating statistics that showed how many of the men involved in the post-Southport riots had a history of being arrested for domestic abuse.

If the argument is that non-British men are more likely to commit offences against women and girls then I'd like to see the data that supports that (reliable and age adjusted figures, not some random Tweet from a hate merchant).

Bizarre post.

Pour more oil on the fire.

Great approach.

[KerrAvon]

Yes the old white people do this too tactic.
Start a thread on these crimes and I?‚?’ll comment
These have entered our country illegally and shouldn?‚?’t be here.
You can pretend it?‚?’s not an ever growing problem if you want to but it?‚?’s a national emergency. I?‚?’m not surprised you justify it because other people commit crimes too that?‚?’s the problem you always do. I work for a domestic abuse charity I know the issues but that?‚?’s got nothing to do with what risks are being put on our girls and women by importing criminals and *** offenders. Take your fingers out of your ears and accept we have a major problem now.

Thanks for the response, Yak.

Let me re-frame my questions: If 'white people do this too' and you have an awareness of the widespread abuse of women within our society, why haven't you called that out as a national emergency? Why is it only if the offenders are of a particular ethnicity or hold a particular immigration status that a thread is started and a national emergency called for? Are victims of white British violence less worthy of concern?

I don’t pretend anything (unless I am being paid to). You clearly believe that it’s an ‘ever growing problem’ and a ‘major problem’ and that’s fair enough. You are entitled to hold those views, but in the absence of a sound evidential basis it’s a very strange thing to do.

[frogmiller]

The question that should be asked is.

If these immigrants were not allowed into Britain and allowed to stay in un uncontrolled habitation then would any of these attacks have happened?

[Eternal Optimist]

...I don?t pretend anything (unless I am being paid to)...

Wow. That's a telling admission.