Are the Lunatics Running the Asylum?

[Omegstrat6]

So surely if you dont have a digital ID card, it can be assumed you arent a citizen. Feels like a good idea to me!

Quite apart from any concerns over Big Brother-esque state control, this would surely be quite a costly thing to introduce though Matt and with no guarantees that those criminal elements with the means of doing so would not find ways around it. Any technology always seems to be in this constant fight between authorised users and those who want to either mis-use those systems or avoid them. If digital IDs were introduced (and the vast number of holders will, of course, be perfectly legit) what is to stop some criminal enterprises hacking into them to extract personal data? I agree that tighter controls are needed but just think that this is not the way to do so. As a society, we already seem over reliant on tech systems rather than physical man (person!) power to solve issues.

[SwedishBaggie]

George Orwell ?1984?.

People like Trump and Farage (and others with no sense of democracy, decency and integrity) would love to be able to totally control their citizens - if you criticize them you?re scr*wed, basically.

[baggieal]

George Orwell ?1984?.

People like Trump and Farage (and others with no sense of democracy, decency and integrity) would love to be able to totally control their citizens - if you criticize them you?re scr*wed, basically.

What about a swap - we take in a boat full of gorgeous blond Swedish girls in exchange for giving you a boat full of single Afghans?

[SwedishBaggie]

What about a swap - we take in a boat full of gorgeous blond Swedish girls in exchange for giving you a boat full of single Afghans?

If you include Mason in the swap, I?ll take under consideration? 😜

[baggiematt]

Quite apart from any concerns over Big Brother-esque state control, this would surely be quite a costly thing to introduce though Matt and with no guarantees that those criminal elements with the means of doing so would not find ways around it. Any technology always seems to be in this constant fight between authorised users and those who want to either mis-use those systems or avoid them. If digital IDs were introduced (and the vast number of holders will, of course, be perfectly legit) what is to stop some criminal enterprises hacking into them to extract personal data? I agree that tighter controls are needed but just think that this is not the way to do so. As a society, we already seem over reliant on tech systems rather than physical man (person!) power to solve issues.

Your data is everywhere Omeg. That horse has -already bolted.

[Albionic68]

So surely if you dont have a digital ID card, it can be assumed you arent a citizen. Feels like a good idea to me!

I think they should just implant newborns with digital chips and be done with it. Track their movements and less lithium to recycle as we move away from phone technology all together.

Chip everyone who turns up for a flu jab at the same time whilst they are at it so they can be tracked too. Anyone in hospital. Chip. Waiting at the bar. Chip. Supermarket queue. Chip. Immigrants off a boat. Chip.

In the queue at a chip shop. Chip. That's what you came for and one more chip won't make much of a difference. All part of the service, no need for salt and vinegar and you can thank me later.

Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to chip everyone from birth or when they go for a flu jab or when minding their own business in a queue or when they get off a boat. No idea.

No idea why it's a good idea to do precisely the same thing when dressing it up as doing society a favour by downloading an app to their mobile phones either.

How do we sell the idea. Cutting out chips will help with the obesity crisis. Some people will buy anything if you know how to sell it. Crikey, some people are even gullible enough to buy Villa tops 😉 .

[SwedishBaggie]

I think they should just implant newborns with digital chips and be done with it. Track their movements and less lithium to recycle as we move away from phone technology all together.

Chip everyone who turns up for a flu jab at the same time whilst they are at it so they can be tracked too. Anyone in hospital. Chip. Waiting at the bar. Chip. Supermarket queue. Chip. Immigrants off a boat. Chip.

In the queue at a chip shop. Chip. That's what you came for and one more chip won't make much of a difference. All part of the service, no need for salt and vinegar and you can thank me later.

Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to chip everyone from birth or when they go for a flu jab or when minding their own business in a queue or when they get off a boat. No idea.

No idea why it's a good idea to do precisely the same thing when dressing it up as doing society a favour by downloading an app to their mobile phones either.

How do we sell the idea. Cutting out chips will help with the obesity crisis. Some people will buy anything if you know how to sell it. Crikey, some people are even gullible enough to buy Villa tops 😉 .

So you?re saying everyone should chip in!? 😇

[baggieal]

I think they should just implant newborns with digital chips and be done with it. Track their movements and less lithium to recycle as we move away from phone technology all together.

Chip everyone who turns up for a flu jab at the same time whilst they are at it so they can be tracked too. Anyone in hospital. Chip. Waiting at the bar. Chip. Supermarket queue. Chip. Immigrants off a boat. Chip.

In the queue at a chip shop. Chip. That's what you came for and one more chip won't make much of a difference. All part of the service, no need for salt and vinegar and you can thank me later.

Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to chip everyone from birth or when they go for a flu jab or when minding their own business in a queue or when they get off a boat. No idea.

No idea why it's a good idea to do precisely the same thing when dressing it up as doing society a favour by downloading an app to their mobile phones either.

How do we sell the idea. Cutting out chips will help with the obesity crisis. Some people will buy anything if you know how to sell it. Crikey, some people are even gullible enough to buy Villa tops 😉 .

Good post Dan and agree with it all except one point - immigrants off boats - change the chip to turnaround! The Inn is full!

[kettering_baggie]

So you?re saying everyone should chip in!? ��

No, we’ve had our chips, long ago!

[Omegstrat6]

Your data is everywhere Omeg. That horse has -already bolted.

True, but no point in making it too easy by putting too much of your data all in one place. Even if I had the technical know-how to do so, I wouldn't keep my bank details etc. on my mobile phone for example. I don't know if it helps, but I never save any passwords to my devices either and this is the only social platform I use. Various recent cyber attacks have shown the vulnerability of Big Data and the danger of keeping too many of our eggs in one basket. I may be paranoid, but I've even got Faraday pouches and RFID cards for car cards and debit cards-do you think I should invest in a tin foil hat too?😁