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  1. #1
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    Trafford is not what we need.

    8-10 clubs have better keepers than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonviking View Post
    Trafford is not what we need.

    8-10 clubs have better keepers than us.
    I don't disagree to be honest but I know what we and Eddie are like - how many times have we gone back for players.

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    Right lads - get the razor blades out and start slitting.
    FFS

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    Haha...

    How do we get a topp class keeper?

    We have to try and identify the next big thing...

    But it doesent work like that with keepers, does it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonviking View Post
    Haha...

    How do we get a topp class keeper?

    We have to try and identify the next big thing...

    But it doesent work like that with keepers, does it?
    Word is that Filip Jorgensen wants a move away from Chelsea after becoming frustrated with his role as second-choice goalkeeper, although the club will have to sanction an exit for the 23-year-old Denmark international who has a contract until 2031.

    I don't know if he's good enough. I haven't seen him play.

    Zion Suzuki is a hot prospect in Italy. Japan's national team GK. Again don't know enough about him but like the lad who went to Barca who is keeping Ter Stegen out of the team & Mamardashvili who seems content on the Liverpool bench there is plenty of quality options out there.

    A Goal Keeper should be remembered for being unnoticed. When keepers are noticed it's due to howlers.

    Rambo's ball playing is brilliant and has given the team a more attacking rapid response. Against Chelsea, his ball out to Elanga almost related in a goal.

    That will pay off soon during the season.

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    Just have a thought about our defense.

    I dont think that player to player we are weaker than Burn-Botman-Schar-Trippier defensive line 3 years.

    My opinion - the problem is that each game there are 4 different players starting.
    Thiaw, I guess, is the most consistent starter, but its his first year here.
    Burn plays LB one day and CB the next one.
    Hall and Tino are first team, but they are injury prone.

    Another one here - I believe that there should be a leader at the back who commands the line - captain-like figure. We had Trippier before, but now I cant think of anyone in that mood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marat18 View Post
    Just have a thought about our defense.

    I dont think that player to player we are weaker than Burn-Botman-Schar-Trippier defensive line 3 years.

    My opinion - the problem is that each game there are 4 different players starting.
    Thiaw, I guess, is the most consistent starter, but its his first year here.
    Burn plays LB one day and CB the next one.
    Hall and Tino are first team, but they are injury prone.

    Another one here - I believe that there should be a leader at the back who commands the line - captain-like figure. We had Trippier before, but now I cant think of anyone in that mood.
    The constant chopping and changing is definitely not optimal. You are absolutely correct that a settled back 4 with Pope was the 2nd best defence in the league that season. It really matters.

    With the NUFC injury carousel currently in full spin, it is what it is sadly.

    From a laymen's view point. It seems that most of the teams pain comes from balls in between the defensive and midfield, 'the pockets of space', 'half spaced', 'the No.10' position' and all jibber jabber the pundits babble to describe it.

    With the midfield looking to press in midfield they naturally step up and the defence slowly sinks deeper opening up that gap. Generally later in the match when fatigue starts to set in and the psychology is to defend a lead.

    After taking the lead, seeing out the result has been a challenge this season. The dogged indomitable mentality of a few seasons ago has some what dissolved. Whilst the defence and Rambo have done well it's the fine margins. Again I take you back to my previous comment. Having a proper No.6 to bring on at 60mins to just sit in and mop up those balls through the lines to protect the back 4 would be ideal. Also, someone with a remit to cut out passes through to the No.10 or more creative MF player clubs move up around that time in games which seems to swing the balance in their favour.

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