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[ramAnag]

I see our Nige was out yesterday supporting the cruel and barbaric torture of innocent animals.

I’d just like to clarify, as someone who has lived in two rural villages throughout the last 42 years, opposing hunting is NOT regarded as an ‘attack on our rural way of life’.
Sure, there are times when farmers may have to resort to a gun to protect their livestock however hunting and shooting animals for pleasure and ‘fun’ is not something that the majority of those living in the countryside support, in my experience.

[ramAnag]

I see our Nige was out yesterday supporting the cruel and barbaric torture of innocent animals.

I?d just like to clarify, as someone who has lived in two rural villages throughout the last 42 years, that opposing hunting is NOT an ?attack upon our rural way of life?.
Sure, farmers sometimes have to resort to a gun to protect their livestock, but hunting and shooting animals for pleasure and ?fun? is not something that, in my experience, the majority of those living in rural environments support.

[Geoff Parkstone]

I see our Nige was out yesterday supporting the cruel and barbaric torture of innocent animals.

Foxes? Innocent animals? Have you ever kept chickens?

Don't get me wrong, I hate hunting with a vengeance due to the arrogance of those involved thinking they can go where they want, trampling growing crops, scaring young kids and believing it's their inalienable right to do so, but don't get caught up in the innocence of foxes

[SithHappens]

Foxes? Innocent animals? Have you ever kept chickens?

Don't get me wrong, I hate hunting with a vengeance due to the arrogance of those involved thinking they can go where they want, trampling growing crops, scaring young kids and believing it's their inalienable right to do so, but don't get caught up in the innocence of foxes

Yes innocent. You seem to be suggesting foxes should only kill non domesticated animals which is ridiculous. How on earth can a wild animal distinguish?

Its a food chain. If a farmer needs to defend his animals fair enough but to hunt and torture for fun is a disgrace

[ramAnag]

Foxes? Innocent animals? Have you ever kept chickens?

Don't get me wrong, I hate hunting with a vengeance due to the arrogance of those involved thinking they can go where they want, trampling growing crops, scaring young kids and believing it's their inalienable right to do so, but don't get caught up in the innocence of foxes

They’re wild animals, GP and yes I know they can make a distressing mess of a hen house, but isn’t it up to the humans who keep them to make them secure?
Either way a farmer/keeper taking a shotgun to get rid of a troublesome fox is one thing…dressing up to cavort en masse around the countryside on horseback while glorifying the killing and tearing apart of an animal is surely another.

[Geoff Parkstone]

They’re wild animals, GP and yes I know they can make a distressing mess of a hen house, but isn’t it up to the humans who keep them to make them secure?
Either way a farmer/keeper taking a shotgun to get rid of a troublesome fox is one thing…dressing up to cavort en masse around the countryside on horseback while glorifying the killing and tearing apart of an animal is surely another.

As I said don't think for one minute I'm defending hunting, but I also recall several incidents from childhood where a fox got into hen accomodations and slaughtered everything in the pen - eating maybe half of one and taking none away.

[SithHappens]

I keep rabbits which are outdoors. Its up to me to protect them from wild animals or cats. If I fail while I will be pissed off it's my fault.

[SithHappens]

Makes me laugh Farage in the defence of hunts said we might aswell ban dog walking as dogs might chase rabbits, deer, sheep etc. It's very different and my message to Nigel is if he is incapable of controlling his dogs then he shouldn't be a dog owner.

[ramAnag]

As I said don't think for one minute I'm defending hunting, but I also recall several incidents from childhood where a fox got into hen accomodations and slaughtered everything in the pen - eating maybe half of one and taking none away.

Appreciate that you’re not, but you’re not answering the points raised either.

[Andy_Faber]

Foxes? Innocent animals? Have you ever kept chickens?

Don't get me wrong, I hate hunting with a vengeance due to the arrogance of those involved thinking they can go where they want, trampling growing crops, scaring young kids and believing it's their inalienable right to do so, but don't get caught up in the innocence of foxes

Yup, agreeing with that as someone who’s participated in vermin control and seen the impact of it not being carried out (ok decades ago) - disagree with it as a sport, support it as a necessary activity. When all said and done killing is killing, any meat eater here is a hypocrite if they try to differentiate between one animal and another