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Thread: What kind of legacy does Tony really want to leave behind?

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    What kind of legacy does Tony really want to leave behind?

    A lot confronting him now, many questions, many decisions to make. Centenary year, look where we are now.

    How do you all see it?

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    Given us some amazing times.

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    Been a good custodian and we should be thankful for his time, but looking at all the issues at the club and there are a lot, he should do all he can to keep us in League 1 and sell in the summer, if he can. However I don not believe he will do the former and therefore the latter becomes harder.

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    Two years back,Tony said he was"losing interest and was not being entertained ".He decided to go all out, to get his mate SE back to the club.He was so determined to get him back, that we were without a manager for over a month, so he could wait to get the deal over the line.This turned out to be disastrous and we have been on a downward slope since. which now leaves us with a five point gap to safety.At this stage we have brought no players in to strengthen,this low in numbers squad.I think that TS's interest in the club has gone down much further since the failed second coming of SE.It is quite clear that no money is being spent on ground renovations and all previous promises on developments have never got off the ground.Tony really does need to sell up before his good name is tarnished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerBill View Post
    Two years back,Tony said he was"losing interest and was not being entertained ".He decided to go all out, to get his mate SE back to the club.He was so determined to get him back, that we were without a manager for over a month, so he could wait to get the deal over the line.This turned out to be disastrous and we have been on a downward slope since. which now leaves us with a five point gap to safety.At this stage we have brought no players in to strengthen,this low in numbers squad.I think that TS's interest in the club has gone down much further since the failed second coming of SE.It is quite clear that no money is being spent on ground renovations and all previous promises on developments have never got off the ground.Tony really does need to sell up before his good name is tarnished.
    Whilst much of that rings true and hard to argue against, for me it has always been the lack of football nous and failure to listen to the good managers he has had, albeit not very many.
    It is that flaw which led to the quoted post.
    Lack of planning, which combined with the same way of working ad hoc, but always with knowing how much he is prepared to gamble on a manager or season has been the downfall quite a lot.
    The pinnacle being Evans 2.

    However, that said, in total it does leave Stewart, who does always seem stubborn in his ways, perhaps not now knowing what to do.
    Does he really care, of course he does. If only for the amount of money tied in the venture.
    By his own admission RUFC is a hobby, yes he did once say it. And that built a ground, brought life back to a club in distress.
    So I assume he does care about not going out on any down.

    What we are seeing is an extreme version of other times in his tenure, and only the man himself will know exactly how he feels and those close to him.

    January is the wrong time to go full pelt, he won?t. But, there is some room for loans spending, and if it is done wisely it could be turned
    around.

    I do not think top of the agenda thinking will be the legacy, not now. Battening down the hatches and hoping to ride it out for now is what Douglas has more or less said. It has to take priority. I am surprised by the thread question, it is unlikely any actions now will give a clue.

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    2008 to around half way through Warne's tenure, absolutely fantastic. Got so much right despite the challenges faced. New ground, sorted and managed the financial mess left by various others, provided the right environment for success on the pitch (it's important IMHO that owners neither get too much grief for management failings or praise for success in that regard - if they provide the right tools for the level a team is at, that's the mission).

    From then to now, sometimes frustrating and sometimes infuriating, with the odd highlight. Commercially we still feel a bit "80s", I think it's a mistake not to have expanded the ground when things were going well, the club feels more fragmented now, and despite propping up the club financially, it's becoming increasingly difficult to see the attraction to buyers when that money is owed back to him and the early progress has slowed.

    As a legacy, if he left tomorrow, rock solid. The last few years will fade from memory and he'll be remembered for the many positives. A few more years of disinterest, lack of progress, sponsorship from the local butty vans, sporadic but low value spending on players, and it may be the division he leaves us in which determines it.

    Maybe he'll stick around for our 150th anniversary next year to bang out a few more cheap watches.

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    Maybe the headline "New ?250,000,000 station in Rotherham to be built on the site of the former New York Stadium" will be his legacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    Maybe the headline "New ?250,000,000 station in Rotherham to be built on the site of the former New York Stadium" will be his legacy?
    CAM, it's actually being built at Parkgate but follow your meaning.

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    What you see is not necessarily what you get.

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    He will leave us where he found us league two , is anyone here still under the illusion he’s bothered, rumour has it he’s found a new toy to play with a 40 something lady ( don’t know if it’s true) so it’s out with his old toy Rotherham United and on to a new one, Carnot blame him to be honest, he should sell if possible .

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