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    And are you, Mr Trump, full of sh1t?

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    Over 100 body bags shown in an "open air.morgue".in an Iranian city, murdered by the Iranian regime. Come on Ronald MacDonald, live up to your bluster and.do the.right thng.

    Or are you all mouth and trousers?

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    I'm guessing that not giving the IIRG or the regime information about what the opposition is doing like we did in 2009 might be a good start.

    Maybe not giving the regime 10's of billions of dollars like we did in 2020 and 2021 might also be a good start.

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    What's the pointof talking about these countries?
    They are all the same Muslims, it all ends up going back like it was, e.g., Iran Afganastan jordan yemen siria and the others! They just go back to what they were. They do not know any better. One minute they are protesting against Israel, the next they wave the Israeli flag, e.g., in London.

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    The reality is that Iran is not in anyone's hands right now other than the Iranian people. Trump's comments are merely meant to temper the killing that we all know is going to occur. The Persians are intelligent people and they've had enough. It has to be their doing for what the future holds for them. I am most hopeful for them that the money now used for world terrorism will go toward the improving their lives and most importantly allows the women the right to be educated and having legal rights.

    If Trump threatening the regime to not kill innocent people in their country stops even a small number of deaths isn't that a good thing? I really don't see any down side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    The reality is that Iran is not in anyone's hands right now other than the Iranian people. Trump's comments are merely meant to temper the killing that we all know is going to occur. The Persians are intelligent people and they've had enough. It has to be their doing for what the future holds for them. I am most hopeful for them that the money now used for world terrorism will go toward the improving their lives and most importantly allows the women the right to be educated and having legal rights.

    If Trump threatening the regime to not kill innocent people in their country stops even a small number of deaths isn't that a good thing? I really don't see any down side.
    There has been no change of.the regime in Iran, the country is under the control of the clerics and IRG, NOT the Iranian people. Trump by his bluster and hyperbole has emboldened the protesters, over 500 of whom have now been killed with many of those arrested during the protests awaiting summary execution. He hasn't stopped ANY deaths, quite the contrary, his actions have brought more protestors onto the streets, increasing the likelihood of deaths and arrests.

    If he can't or won't live up to his threats he should just keep quiet and let the Iranian people determine what their course of action. Right now he IS the downside you don't want to see.

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    The Furher, on paper, controlled Germany in late April and First week of May in 1945. He was moving around imaginary armies. The regime is moving around imaginary money. In the end both countries have failed

    I guess the downside on Trump is his destroying the bulk of their Nuke program this summer. I?m sure the regime would have been real responsible with those right about now

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    The Furher, on paper, controlled Germany in late April and First week of May in 1945. He was moving around imaginary armies. The regime is moving around imaginary money. In the end both countries have failed

    I guess the downside on Trump is his destroying the bulk of their Nuke program this summer. I?m sure the regime would have been real responsible with those right about now
    The Iranian regime may, as you suggest, be overseeing a failed country. As with all dictatorships however, only when tens of thousands, millions perhaps, have suffered and died will those at the top of the tree pay the price of their failure.

    Iran has, and had, no effective delivery mechanism capable of striking any credible target (Israel being the only real target and they have both the defensive capability to combat an Iranian attack and most certainly the offensive capacity to erase most of Iran should they choose).

    Much more likely, and we see the evidence in the increasing body count of protesters, is a new, more vicious crack-down by the regime, it's what they have done on every occasion when opposition puts it's head above the parapet. Unfortunately on this occasion we had Trump, who for reasons tied almost entirely to his over-inflated ego, chose to make boasts of action to support the protestors he is either unable or unwilling to make good on, apparently uncaring of fate of.those who were encouraged by his bluster. They paid the price, theirs is the downside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    The reality is that Iran is not in anyone's hands right now other than the Iranian people. Trump's comments are merely meant to temper the killing that we all know is going to occur. The Persians are intelligent people and they've had enough. It has to be their doing for what the future holds for them. I am most hopeful for them that the money now used for world terrorism will go toward the improving their lives and most importantly allows the women the right to be educated and having legal rights.

    If Trump threatening the regime to not kill innocent people in their country stops even a small number of deaths isn't that a good thing? I really don't see any down side.
    They left Christianity to follow a pedophile, become human bombs, and they allow regimes to run and destroy their lives. I think they are not that smart at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaldy View Post
    The Furher, on paper, controlled Germany in late April and First week of May in 1945. He was moving around imaginary armies. The regime is moving around imaginary money. In the end both countries have failed

    I guess the downside on Trump is his destroying the bulk of their Nuke program this summer. I?m sure the regime would have been real responsible with those right about now
    And now we see reputable estimates of fatalities from the streets of Iran running into the thousands, not the hundreds and on-the ground reports from brave protestors who are prepared to risk their lives by filming many sites being used as open-air morgue which suggest those estimates are grossly under reporting.

    And what does Trump do? He urges Iranians to carry on protesting, saying "Help is on the way". He has no shame.

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