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Thread: Tonali's agent

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    Tonali's agent

    On the summer window...

    ?Newcastle are having a hard time letting go of Sandro, and he wants to lead the club to the Champions League.

    "These transfer discussions will take place later. We?ll see how the season ends and then we?ll decide what to do,? the agent said.

    ?There?s no preference at the moment. It?s still early. What we?re saying today won?t apply tomorrow. Newcastle couldn?t let him go now, and there?s no point in moving, especially since Sandro is very attached to the club.

    ?We?ll evaluate and decide what to do in the summer.?

    He's off, then.

    This season is a bust, we all know it. Yes, we could turn it around but we've been saying that, more or less, since September. There are many rabbits off, amongst them the reason for his own drop in form... but

    ...a fit and firing Tonali is just about the best midfielder I've seen at this club but, if he wants out, we can't afford to hold on like we did with the rat. Get him out early and buy our first choice replacement so we don't end up with the Wissa version of a replacement midfielder.

    I really hope he stays but he could walk into any of the top teams in Europe, imo, and won't want to hang around if the rest of this season plays out the way it's lookiong like it might.

    Thoughts

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    Of course he?s off and Livramento too. This is a come and get me by Tonali. To do this half way through the season is shytehousing, talk about disrespectful. There?s a level above us we can?t offer the wages or the trophies.

    It?s sh1t but what can you do? Get maximum for them and hope we invest well. I?d say the PIF will get a pain in their arse with this carry on, they?re powerless here and they?re not used to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    On the summer window...

    ?Newcastle are having a hard time letting go of Sandro, and he wants to lead the club to the Champions League.

    "These transfer discussions will take place later. We?ll see how the season ends and then we?ll decide what to do,? the agent said.

    ?There?s no preference at the moment. It?s still early. What we?re saying today won?t apply tomorrow. Newcastle couldn?t let him go now, and there?s no point in moving, especially since Sandro is very attached to the club.

    ?We?ll evaluate and decide what to do in the summer.?

    He's off, then.

    This season is a bust, we all know it. Yes, we could turn it around but we've been saying that, more or less, since September. There are many rabbits off, amongst them the reason for his own drop in form... but

    ...a fit and firing Tonali is just about the best midfielder I've seen at this club but, if he wants out, we can't afford to hold on like we did with the rat. Get him out early and buy our first choice replacement so we don't end up with the Wissa version of a replacement midfielder.

    I really hope he stays but he could walk into any of the top teams in Europe, imo, and won't want to hang around if the rest of this season plays out the way it's lookiong like it might.

    Thoughts
    I rambled on this subject in the 'Out Scouting Network'

    Selling Sandro
    Sandro - 110
    110+465 = 575m
    70% of 575 = 402.5m


    My thoughts are that the player is contracts until 2030. The buying clubs are gonna have to pay Enzo Fernandez, Caicedo, Wirtz money because last season all the Cartel media shills were calling Sandro 'The best Midfielder in the Premier League

    I've been modest with 110m quid. With inflation the lad is worth 120-130m.

    What NUFC have to do as a club is set a deadline, You can leave for this price, before Pre-Season. No counter offers, no add-ons, 120-130m before the player reports back to the club after the extended break after the world cup or the he is with NUFC until summer 2027.

    Last summer was a joke with the club being lead around by the nose like amateurs.

    Ideally the lad goes to Madrid or back to Italy, however, we know clearly that Juve can't afford him.

    Going to a Prem Rival should not be an option. The deal for Bindips or Ars should be priced 15-20m above the 120-130 price.

    Make the signing hurt the buying club

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    My post from the other thread. I factor in Tino & Gordon. Gordon has lost his hunger to be a top player, he thinks he's already made it. Sadly the lad is a long long way off being a top player. Tino, The lad is all energy but he has no end product P99 G1 A3 80m quid I'll drive him to Manchester personally.


    Adding a massive chunk to the enhanced UCL revenue of 465m could see a revenue of over half a billion quid.

    Gordon might be moving on too. Not gonna cry myself to sleep about that one trick pony either. 80-100m for an England starter, especially off the back of a successful World Cup

    Same for Tino, if he doesn't want to sign a new contract and wants to move on. Off you go son. The club should take 80m for a player who is quality but the injuries are a concern at his age... They don't get better as players age.

    Selling Sandro
    Sandro - 110
    110+465 = 575m
    70% of 575 = 402.5m

    Selling Sandro & Tino
    Sandro - 110 / Tino - 75
    185+465 = 650m
    70% of 650 = 455m

    Selling Sandro & Gordon
    Sandro - 110 / Gordon - 80
    190+465 = 655m
    70% of 655 = 598m

    Selling Tino & Gordon
    Tino - 75 / Gordon - 80
    155+465 = 620m
    70 of 620 = 434m

    Selling all three
    Sandro - 110 / Tino - 75 / Gordon - 80
    265+465 = 730m in revenue
    70% of 730 = 511m quid

    The club has to get better at selling players and refreshing the squad.
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    The benefits financially are there to take advantage of.

    70% of revenue spend ranges from 434m with two sales of Tino & Gordon, Sandro's sale yields a higher return. Selling all 3 would enable the club to spend 511m.

    That is top table cartel busting cash.

    This is without any additional sponsorship or commercial partnership revenue included.

    We're in a performance related business, no room for sentiment.

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    Ben Jacobs is a F**king liar.

    https://www.teamtalk.com/manchester-...runo-guimaraes

    80m verbal agreement if a club comes in for Bruno G hahahaha. What a clown. He's wrong about everything. I have never heard anything from that man that isn't complete factually incorrect.

    It's happening that the Filth are now after Gordon. Off you go. 80m+ and he's a swamp dweller.

    Take the big money early in the window and go buy some actual quality.

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    That might have been true about 2 seasons ago when we all thought and the club as well I suspect that City would come in for Bruno.

    He's not going for ?80 million now.

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    If we are to advance as our CEO has said then we have to learn to sell good players as well as buy them. The squad needs to evolve - our midfield on paper looks amazing but tbh has not performed this season.
    Tonali (like Judas) has never worn his heart on his sleeve for Newcastle but if we get top dollar then its good-bye and good luck. Im not that impressed however after the way the club stood by him and if we dont get CL this season then hes partly to blame - its not the clubs obligation to provide CL football to the players rather they have to earn it for the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammy89 View Post
    That might have been true about 2 seasons ago when we all thought and the club as well I suspect that City would come in for Bruno.

    He's not going for ?80 million now.
    As we've seen first hand from the rat and with Wissa's dragged out transfers 'kind of / sort of Verbal agreement...' is a lie.

    They don't exist in football. Any agreement is put in writing, all and every agent will ensure that.

    Ben Jacobs is a weak little wimp of a man, he talks like he's in the know. He isn't, Not once has he reported anything that actually happened. He's irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toptoon View Post
    If we are to advance as our CEO has said then we have to learn to sell good players as well as buy them. The squad needs to evolve - our midfield on paper looks amazing but tbh has not performed this season.
    Tonali (like Judas) has never worn his heart on his sleeve for Newcastle but if we get top dollar then its good-bye and good luck. Im not that impressed however after the way the club stood by him and if we dont get CL this season then hes partly to blame - its not the clubs obligation to provide CL football to the players rather they have to earn it for the club.
    On Tonali.

    Completely agree. The failure to reach the UCL is down to the under achievement of the players. Tonali was signed to make the team a UCL level team.

    He has been a failure, should the club finish outside the top 5. The entire city supported him during the ban. Whether this is about new contract with more money, a common tactic or he genuinely wants to leave doesn't really matter. The club has to take control and dictate to the press, the gossips, other clubs and the agents. Not the other way around.

    That is the key improvement that NUFC need to achieve. Players will come and go. The club must control the narrative.

    On Hopkinson.

    His background is in commercials. At Real Madrid he was Global Head of Partnership.
    Clearly NUFC has a growing reputation and any sponsor globally as the club plays UCL and at the top of the Prem is increasingly attractive. More over, a closer partnership with the PiF is also a major selling point.

    His experience and relationships with the major agencies, global commercial partners of Real Madrid offering the development package and a close relationship with the world largest Sovereign wealth fund seems to give him the confidence to speak about getting the club closer to the top earners and giving them a fighting chance.

    I don't see why else he'd go public in the manner he/the club did. They invited Talk Sport to SJP for a reason.

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    Sounds like an early warning for this summer to me.

    But at least it?s early.

    Gives the club plenty of time to source his replacement(s) rather than panic buy like they did this summer.

    Hit, at the same time time, he has 3/4 years left on his contract - so he goes for the clubs valuation and they should hold out for it

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