Today's games

[shedka]

Down to 10 men and a goal behind Motherwell continued to dominate v The Rangers and got a deserved equaliser.The possession stats barely changed with 10 v 11 and finished 63% Well to 37% Huns.Them stats are truly staggering The Rangers set their stall out from the off and sat in and played on the break.

The shots at goal tell a similar story with 19 for Well and 10 for The Rangers and Motherwell more or less passed them aff the park even with 10 men for a third of the game with 451 to 263

Neither beat us at Tannadice a few weeks ago, Sevco lucky to get an equaliser

Motherwell doing great, unlike last season, the Lennon miller money being a difference maker, can they maintain it next season? Can McGlynn next season as Falkirk maintain it

That's the challenge for them both

[JUSTaway]

You could argue that he is being too pessimistic but it could also be argued that Dundee and Kilmarnock are currently better than us with ST Mirren roughly about as bad as us.If the current trajectory is to continue we are on course for 10th or 11th unless our form improves.

Head in the sand stuff if you can't see Utd are in a relegation fight now Killie have picked up. That's just the stark reality, our form trajectory is woeful, defence porous, and even when play well, we can't win. We need to find some form asp.

[Arabdownsouth]

Doom merchant, like that dee conway11 on teks board

We just need a win to lift things, can't do that with games being off, we should have had it as Easter road though so that's the frustration again

Conways a bellend but hes quite obviously not a dee, not sure why you'd think that? A dee would be taking the piss each time we lose rather than having a f*cking stroke. I agree we couldn't do much about results tonight with our game off, but I think our problems run deeper than just needing a win to lift things. We haven't won 2 games in a row all season so one win won't fix anything and I'm not even sure where that one win is coming from anyway.

[Arabdownsouth]

Neither beat us at Tannadice a few weeks ago, Sevco lucky to get an equaliser

Motherwell doing great, unlike last season, the Lennon miller money being a difference maker, can they maintain it next season? Can McGlynn next season as Falkirk maintain it

That's the challenge for them both

Whilst ours is staying up

[shedka]

Head in the sand stuff if you can't see Utd are in a relegation fight now Killie have picked up. That's just the stark reality, our form trajectory is woeful, defence porous, and even when play well, we can't win. We need to find some form asp.

4 teams below us played tonight, we didn't

3 of them lost by the way and pretty sure we have games in hand

United fans right now are stuck in a negative mindset where they will use United not playing to have a pop

It's over the top for me but we will see what happens

[shedka]

Whilst ours is staying up

Nah it's to try and finish 7th now realistically, which if we did would be a decent return given the over performance of Motherwell and Falkirk (we will see if those two managers can sustain it next season which will tell us if they are worth the hype)

[shedka]

Conways a bellend but hes quite obviously not a dee, not sure why you'd think that? A dee would be taking the piss each time we lose rather than having a f*cking stroke. I agree we couldn't do much about results tonight with our game off, but I think our problems run deeper than just needing a win to lift things. We haven't won 2 games in a row all season so one win won't fix anything and I'm not even sure where that one win is coming from anyway.

It will come when we don't make an individual error late in a game like this time last week

Wouldn't be a huge surprise if we got a result on Saturday

[Arabdownsouth]

It will come when we don't make an individual error late in a game like this time last week

Wouldn't be a huge surprise if we got a result on Saturday

We've been making individual errors all season, it'll come as a massive surprise to nearly everyone.

[weegiearab]

I don't think having an eye on that play off spot is "being negative"... I would say that it is a necessity! We are definitely not too good to go down! Yes, we haven't played recently but teams like Killie getting points on the board is a concern for us. We are heading for a fixture backlog and we are going to be asking a lot from this team. One thing we haven't managed this season is being consistent and we are going to have to turn that around to make sure we avoid that play off spot. Do we have the players to do it? Yes we do, do we have the mentality to do it? I'm not sure....can we put in a full 90 minute performance? I don't think we have seen one this season..so possibly not!
top 6 is gone....we need to now make sure we are as far up that table as possible come the end of the season. Pretending that its all going to be alright isn't going to help....these players need to understand that they are in a battle because the rest of the teams around us seem like they are preparing for a relegation battle and we don't want to be caught out!

[Chick A Saw]

Not really bothered about football just now so have taken my eye off the ball!

Having now seen the predicament we are in, ive just had a wee accident in ma nappy! Im a never say never kinda guy so Livi have 12 games to overhaul 14 points to us, and we have 9 games to overhaul the 14 points above us. As we have only 5 wins in 24, i think we are kinda stuck where we are for now.

Games in hand just now mean absolutely nothing to me with them being Aberdeen and St Mirren, and in amongst all that, we play Killie and Dundee. Then consider the other 2 teams being Falkirk and Motherwell, im not feeling too positive about our position come the end of the next derby!

Suppose its just the usual New Year down turn that comes along more years than i can remember!