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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    This actually made me laugh out loud
    The killing in US strikes of some of those rumoured to have been viewed as potentially more acceptable candidates to replace Khamenei hasn't helped as the former leader's son now looks set to be chosen. Apparently not too much is known about him although it speculated that he was "the power behind the robe" and shares his father's hard -line beliefs. This naturally won't go down well with either Trump or Netanyahu and neither will any hint of nepotism be taken favourably by many Iranians but it's a clear indication that the leaders of the Islamic Republic intend to hang onto their power. This war/non war may go on for some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    The killing in US strikes of some of those rumoured to have been viewed as potentially more acceptable candidates to replace Khamenei hasn't helped as the former leader's son now looks set to be chosen. Apparently not too much is known about him although it speculated that he was "the power behind the robe" and shares his father's hard -line beliefs. This naturally won't go down well with either Trump or Netanyahu and neither will any hint of nepotism be taken favourably by many Iranians but it's a clear indication that the leaders of the Islamic Republic intend to hang onto their power. This war/non war may go on for some time.
    Hope not Omeg as my shares are taking a hit! Mind you I love Dubai so a bargain could be found 😭

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    A preliminary US military investigation has reportedly determined that Washington was responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school in February that killed scores of children.

    According to the New York Times, quoting unnamed US officials and others familiar with the initial findings, the investigation has concluded that the strike on 28 February on the Shajarah Tayyebeh elementary school building was the result of a targeting mistake by the US military planners.

    On Saturday, Trump declared that Iran was responsible for the Iranian school bombing. “In my opinion, based on what I’ve seen, that was done by Iran.” They’re very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions. They have no accuracy whatsoever. It was done by Iran.” The president presented no evidence for his claim.

    Well it was the Yankee military who had no accuracy. What a blundering blabber mouthpiece this orange Buffon is.

    Is Trump now in any different situation to other wanted war criminals, the likes of Putin and Netanyahu. He has the blood of children on his hands. Will there be an arrest warrant issued for this excuse of a human being like has been rightly done for the above mentioned. Probably not.

    The fact he tried to blame the other side without any evidence makes it worse.
    Last edited by On Balance; 12-03-2026 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On Balance View Post
    A preliminary US military investigation has reportedly determined that Washington was responsible for a deadly Tomahawk missile strike on an Iranian elementary school in February that killed scores of children.

    According to the New York Times, quoting unnamed US officials and others familiar with the initial findings, the investigation has concluded that the strike on 28 February on the Shajarah Tayyebeh elementary school building was the result of a targeting mistake by the US military planners.

    On Saturday, Trump declared that Iran was responsible for the Iranian school bombing. “In my opinion, based on what I’ve seen, that was done by Iran.” They’re very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions. They have no accuracy whatsoever. It was done by Iran.” The president presented no evidence for his claim.

    Well it was the Yankee military who had no accuracy. What a blundering blabber mouthpiece this orange Buffon is.

    Is Trump now in any different situation to other wanted war criminals, the likes of Putin and Netanyahu. He has the blood of children on his hands. Will there be an arrest warrant issued for this excuse of a human being like has been rightly done for the above mentioned. Probably not.

    The fact he tried to blame the other side without any evidence makes it worse.
    Get what you?re saying OB but in wars civilians will sadly die. Look how many the Brits killed in Iraq due to inaccuracy or friendly fire.

    Unbelievable the Iranians are outraged when weeks before they massacred 12,000 of their own innocent woman and kids for protesting. How many have Iran killed in neighbouring countries for firing drones into civilian hotels and flats?

    Does not make it right but to be honest I am surprised so few have died. If I was the US I would tell all civilians to keep away from the strait then bomb the hell out of the port areas.

    Same with Hezbollah - innocent people are getting injured but that?s life taking out an evil regime.

    Dislike Trump but taking out Iran and Hezbollah is a must for me as they are purely evil. Murdering 12,000 of their own - oh my god!

    We do need to look towards home more where that idiot is failing. With what?s coming out of the Mandleson files that complete incompetent
    w anker needs to be sacked. Our country is being wrecked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Get what you?re saying OB but in wars civilians will sadly die. Look how many the Brits killed in Iraq due to inaccuracy or friendly fire.

    Unbelievable the Iranians are outraged when weeks before they massacred 12,000 of their own innocent woman and kids for protesting. How many have Iran killed in neighbouring countries for firing drones into civilian hotels and flats?

    Does not make it right but to be honest I am surprised so few have died. If I was the US I would tell all civilians to keep away from the strait then bomb the hell out of the port areas.

    Same with Hezbollah - innocent people are getting injured but that?s life taking out an evil regime.

    Dislike Trump but taking out Iran and Hezbollah is a must for me as they are purely evil. Murdering 12,000 of their own - oh my god!

    We do need to look towards home more where that idiot is failing. With what?s coming out of the Mandleson files that complete incompetent
    w anker needs to be sacked. Our country is being wrecked.
    What makes Trump so deplorable is that he says things which have no truth. His comment,

    “In my opinion, based on what I’ve seen, that was done by Iran.” They’re very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions. They have no accuracy whatsoever. It was done by Iran.”

    You have to remember Al, Trump has killed a few of his own people. Those ICE agents were acting on behalf of the Trump administration and they murdered their own. Not on a large scale perhaps like the Iranian regime but where do you drum the line. One, two or thousands.

    He is showing he is a loose cannon and since he began his second term the world is in a far more dangerous place than it was before. Trump stated he was going to end the Russian war with Ukraine in a day. He didn’t. He claims he has ended eight wars I think. He hasn’t. He has actually started two, which was the opposite to his election mandate and promises.

    Trump is a very dangerous clown. And a clowns have no place running a super power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by On Balance View Post
    What makes Trump so deplorable is that he says things which have no truth. His comment,

    “In my opinion, based on what I’ve seen, that was done by Iran.” They’re very inaccurate, as you know, with their munitions. They have no accuracy whatsoever. It was done by Iran.”

    You have to remember Al, Trump has killed a few of his own people. Those ICE agents were acting on behalf of the Trump administration and they murdered their own. Not on a large scale perhaps like the Iranian regime but where do you drum the line. One, two or thousands.

    He is showing he is a loose cannon and since he began his second term the world is in a far more dangerous place than it was before. Trump stated he was going to end the Russian war with Ukraine in a day. He didn’t. He claims he has ended eight wars I think. He hasn’t. He has actually started two, which was the opposite to his election mandate and promises.

    Trump is a very dangerous clown. And a clowns have no place running a super power.
    See what you are saying but Biden and Obama were too soft. I can guess why Trump is on good terms with Russia because after Ukraine money will change hands and lots of it. Still Trump has double the support in his country than Starmer. Just returned from NYC and the people we spoke to love him and in Florida they love him.

    Still think Iran being taken out is a good thing and ICE were too aggressive but I do agree illegals should be deported. Both killings with Ice - one did not stop with her car when instructed and tried to get away - the other had been damaging police cars the day before and was carrying a gun. Yes he had a gun licence but you don?t carry one when confronting police. I remember in the US when I failed to come to a complete stop at a junction and did clutch control and a police car was behind with lights flashing indicating for me to stop. I did the worst thing you could do in the US - got out my car and started working towards the police car. Guns were drawn and was told to lie on the floor. The cops said had they not realised I was a dum tourist with flip flops they would have shot me. In the US and go over there a lot you do not f uck with the cops. It?s the way it is but many would say in the UK everything is too soft! Bit like Huntley it?s fantastic that someone gave him a good blow with an iron bar. Why? Saving tax payers money and carrying out revenge for those little girls. Even his daughter said his ashes should be flushed down the loo. I hope that Wayne Couzens ( the cop ) gets the same treatment.

    I also agree that after one year people should do community work for their benefits ( that?s mainly lazy whites ). If this happened many idle lazy individuals would soon find a job. Not fair on those who work and have work ethic!

    Trouble is with Iran you are dealing with an ideology so difficult to defeat. They are prepared to die to the last which is why yes they would use a nuclear bomb.

    We also have Starmer who is the most gutless and weak PM ever and needs to look at home before trying to be the big man on the world stage, After these Mandleson files being viewed many would say Starmer is corrupt and what was the real reason Mandleson was appointed? He?s just ? Peter ? says Starmer! Yeah right!

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    Interesting article but correct - destroy the political elites!

    Roger Macmillan, former director of security at Iran International, said most people don't realise the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) conducts operations in Britain.
    He told Sky News: "They operate very much on the military side, as people see. They also control very much the diplomatic element and critically, the economy, with 30 to 40% of the economy being controlled by the IRGC in Iran."
    The main focus of the UK government should be to destroy the political elites of Iran and target their finances - in particular the more than ?200m in London property the new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, controls.
    Macmillan added: "I think the IRGC needs to be proscribed [banned] immediately and certainly - if they can't do the whole IRGC - the Quds Force, the one who is actually responsible for conducting acts of terror overseas.
    "I would ask the government to look at how else they can reduce the influence by the IRGC in the UK, and that is through Companies House, through shutting down known entities that take money from Iran, but also from Iran's proxies as well."

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    There is no doubt that the IRGC pose a threat to the UK. In October 2025 the head of MI5 claimed that 20 terrorist plots which had the backing of the IRGC had been foiled since 2022. The vast majority of these targeted Iranians living in the UK who are opposed to the regime rather than plans to attack either UK civilian or military targets. Although some are engaged in spying, the main aim is to stifle criticism of the regime rather than to launch direct terrorist attacks against the UK which would be obviously be counter-productive if found to have IRGC backing. This is not to say that the regime does not still pose a great potential threat to the UK, hence the focus on ensuring that Iran is not able to develop nuclear weapons alongside the objectives of preventing radicalisation and terrorist attacks.

    The annual London Al Qud march has been largely peaceful for many years and, although supported by the ironically named Islamic Human Rights Commission which has clear ties to the IRGC, it is primarily focussed on Palestinian rights in Gaza and The West Bank. Given the long standing -and illegal-expansion by right wing Zionists into Palestinian lands it isn't a surprise to me that the march garners support but given the present inflammatory circumstances, Mahmood is surely right to have banned it this year for public safety reasons.

    The Iranian regime also clearly harbours and supports terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas and enables them to operate against Israel and supplies drones to Russia for its war against Ukraine. It is also one, of course, that threatens the liberties of those very many of its own population who are not in agreement with their ideology.

    No doubting it is a hateful and repressive regime but it is one that does not represent all of its people and one that there is no evidence to suggest was in a position to pose any "imminent" threat (as Trump claimed) to either the US or the UK. Israel may have legitimate reasons to attack terrorist camps within Iran that target it, but, to my mind, there is no legal justification for the US attack on a sovereign country -however hateful or repressive it's regime.

    Trump is presently crowing about how he is the only POTUS with the courage to wipe out the regime in Iran and lists the various attacks by it on US targets since they came to power in 1979 as part of his justification for his present actions (whilst completely ignoring the impact of US meddling in the region). But the messages coming out of the White House are still contradictory and there still seems no end game here.

    The only financial beneficiary of the war so far seems to be Russia. True, the supply of drones from Iran may have been stemmed but the hike in oil prices and the threat to the important Strait of Hormuz have led Trump to "temporarily" lift sanctions on Russian oil. Of course he has. This only benefits Russia and enables Putin to carry on with his own "special operation"/ war against Ukraine as Trump continues his own "excursion"/war against Iran (using up his stockpile of munitions in the process and preventing them from being sent to aid Ukraine).

    Just as Starmer refused to join in with Trump's attack on Iran, he now refuses to join in and lift sanctions on Russian oil. This may certainly hurt costs at home -though the government is clear about tackling any fuel profiteering by companies-but is surely the right/ moral thing to do still? Any rises in fuel prices (and, subsequently, the cost of many goods) will definitely not be welcomed by many who are already struggling financially in the UK but this is all a direct result of Trump's action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omegstrat6 View Post
    There is no doubt that the IRGC pose a threat to the UK. In October 2025 the head of MI5 claimed that 20 terrorist plots which had the backing of the IRGC had been foiled since 2022. The vast majority of these targeted Iranians living in the UK who are opposed to the regime rather than plans to attack either UK civilian or military targets. Although some are engaged in spying, the main aim is to stifle criticism of the regime rather than to launch direct terrorist attacks against the UK which would be obviously be counter-productive if found to have IRGC backing. This is not to say that the regime does not still pose a great potential threat to the UK, hence the focus on ensuring that Iran is not able to develop nuclear weapons alongside the objectives of preventing radicalisation and terrorist attacks.

    The annual London Al Qud march has been largely peaceful for many years and, although supported by the ironically named Islamic Human Rights Commission which has clear ties to the IRGC, it is primarily focussed on Palestinian rights in Gaza and The West Bank. Given the long standing -and illegal-expansion by right wing Zionists into Palestinian lands it isn't a surprise to me that the march garners support but given the present inflammatory circumstances, Mahmood is surely right to have banned it this year for public safety reasons.

    The Iranian regime also clearly harbours and supports terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas and enables them to operate against Israel and supplies drones to Russia for its war against Ukraine. It is also one, of course, that threatens the liberties of those very many of its own population who are not in agreement with their ideology.

    No doubting it is a hateful and repressive regime but it is one that does not represent all of its people and one that there is no evidence to suggest was in a position to pose any "imminent" threat (as Trump claimed) to either the US or the UK. Israel may have legitimate reasons to attack terrorist camps within Iran that target it, but, to my mind, there is no legal justification for the US attack on a sovereign country -however hateful or repressive it's regime.

    Trump is presently crowing about how he is the only POTUS with the courage to wipe out the regime in Iran and lists the various attacks by it on US targets since they came to power in 1979 as part of his justification for his present actions (whilst completely ignoring the impact of US meddling in the region). But the messages coming out of the White House are still contradictory and there still seems no end game here.

    The only financial beneficiary of the war so far seems to be Russia. True, the supply of drones from Iran may have been stemmed but the hike in oil prices and the threat to the important Strait of Hormuz have led Trump to "temporarily" lift sanctions on Russian oil. Of course he has. This only benefits Russia and enables Putin to carry on with his own "special operation"/ war against Ukraine as Trump continues his own "excursion"/war against Iran (using up his stockpile of munitions in the process and preventing them from being sent to aid Ukraine).

    Just as Starmer refused to join in with Trump's attack on Iran, he now refuses to join in and lift sanctions on Russian oil. This may certainly hurt costs at home -though the government is clear about tackling any fuel profiteering by companies-but is surely the right/ moral thing to do still? Any rises in fuel prices (and, subsequently, the cost of many goods) will definitely not be welcomed by many who are already struggling financially in the UK but this is all a direct result of Trump's action.
    Good post Omeg but difficult one! In my eyes Iran needed taking out along with Hezbollah and Hamas. For sure the neighbouring countries including Lebanon will be secretly pleased because they have lived in fear. They also despise this regime just like ordinary Iranians.

    Sadly where there?s an ideology and Afghanistan is the same they just regroup and grow stronger. Look at the girls and women again now in Afghanistan as they are treated like dirt. Girls are made to be mothers at 12 FFS. This is why none of these people entering the UK should be allowed to stay and there?s been a number of rapes on school girls from Afghans. What do we expect when this mentality is inbred?

    There is an argument to support keeping out of everyone else?s business and just letting them get on with it including Ukraine. The UK military forces once feared now is weak with all the cut backs so apart from Trident - who protects the UK? Starmer is looking to increase the military spend of GDP to another 1%. But for this to happen services need to be cut or hard working tax payers taxed more but many can?t take any more. My point is to deport all the illegals and get tough but also get tough on those claiming benefits ie you can only claim benefits for 1 year then you work for your benefits by community work. This government though actually is too soft on those on benefits - take the two child cap which was abolished. If you are genuinely unemployed for over a year should you have - satellite dishes - holidays - a car - booze and fags?

    This country is too soft and soon will be on the way to bankruptcy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Good post Omeg but difficult one! In my eyes Iran needed taking out along with Hezbollah and Hamas. For sure the neighbouring countries including Lebanon will be secretly pleased because they have lived in fear. They also despise this regime just like ordinary Iranians.

    Sadly where there?s an ideology and Afghanistan is the same they just regroup and grow stronger. Look at the girls and women again now in Afghanistan as they are treated like dirt. Girls are made to be mothers at 12 FFS. This is why none of these people entering the UK should be allowed to stay and there?s been a number of rapes on school girls from Afghans. What do we expect when this mentality is inbred?

    There is an argument to support keeping out of everyone else?s business and just letting them get on with it including Ukraine. The UK military forces once feared now is weak with all the cut backs so apart from Trident - who protects the UK? Starmer is looking to increase the military spend of GDP to another 1%. But for this to happen services need to be cut or hard working tax payers taxed more but many can?t take any more. My point is to deport all the illegals and get tough but also get tough on those claiming benefits ie you can only claim benefits for 1 year then you work for your benefits by community work. This government though actually is too soft on those on benefits - take the two child cap which was abolished. If you are genuinely unemployed for over a year should you have - satellite dishes - holidays - a car - booze and fags?

    This country is too soft and soon will be on the way to bankruptcy!
    Had Iran posed a genuine imminent threat as claimed by Trump then pre-emptive strikes may have been legitimate but they weren't and his actions have only inflamed tensions in the region and the oil issue will impact on many. I truly believe Trump (who is also on record over the years for both denouncing America's meddling in the Middle East and coming out as against getting involved in conflicts with Iran) does not have a thought out plan here. I can't but feel that Netanyahu has also had an influence on him. No doubting the hatred and heinous crimes of Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel, but it is disingenuous at best to ignore Netanyahu's own actions or that of right wing Zionists against Palestinians.

    As for domestic issues, Starmer is certainly right to want to increase defence spending (which has been allowed to fall woefully low over the years of comparative peace following the end of the Cold War) but you are dead right over concerns as to how this will impact on the finances of many already struggling financially. Of course costs can be saved by far better managing immigration levels but this is only a comparatively small amount and whilst a genuine concern, ok is also too easily used to deflect from the root issue which is of growing inequality in the country.

    I also totally agree with you about the need to better manage our benefits system -especially in regard to rooting out those who exploit it- and have long thought that some long term unemployed should be used on public service/ community works (just as we might also adopt the US system of getting prisoners to work to help pay for their keep). The counter argument, of course, is that if public/ community works were done by technically unpaid labour, then this would further cut job opportunities.

    Moreover, in too many parts of the country, jobs are not easy to come by especially now that traditional "entry level" jobs such as in supermarkets or hospitality are no longer there. For too many-almost regardless of qualifications-the most numerous vacancies are in the minimum wage paid care sector -and these are mostly only part time. Yes, they are better than no job at all but they offer little if any prospects and forcing people into this occupation who are unsuitable for the job won't benefit the clients needing that help.

    No easy answers are there Al 😞
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