OT Border Control State of Emergency

[animallittle3]

The real kicker as far as I'm concerned is that neither the Conservatives or Labour never once told the electorate that they were going to increase the population of the UK by the huge numbers we've seen since 2000 , there are 10 million more people in the UK than they were 26 years ago .

Most of us of course see every day how this plays out in our daily lives , commuting to and from work , travelling anywhere for that matter , if you can manage to reach just over 30mph between Huddersfield and Manchester on the M62 then you are having a good day .

The NHS whilst never the greatest health care system in the world is buckling because it has to treat more people than it once did and requires more and more staff just to keep it barely functioning , mainly from abroad , the irony isn't lost on me .

Clearly government's can't keep pace with the amount of funding it requires given the ever increasing numbers it is duty bound to treat .

If you were to have a child every year for the next 15 years you'd probably end up having a bit of a financial challenge as the dependants grew and grew so most of us stick to 2 or 3 , that kind of logic seems to pass government's by .

Importing more people isn't even the half of it , they also go on if they haven't already to have children themselves and on it goes , it's also known as infinity .

The biggest lie you were ever told in my opinion is that the country needs more people coming here because again in my opinion it's the exact opposite thats required .

The progressive class make me smile with their open borders and Green agendas , hmm more people consume more things , create more environmental issues , drive more cars , use more energy and so forth .

Meanwhile government's continue to play wack a mole as they try desperately to keep themselves popular whilst never admitting to the deception they thrust upon this country with huge immigration agendas whilst also trying to hit net zero targets at the same time as letting more people in to the country .

Admittedly I didn't leave school with much in the way of education but it doesn't actually seem that bad given the expensive educations attributed to those in government's who brought us here .

[Shark27]

Yes, they do, and a good deal else besides. Small boats and poorly controlled borders are not the problem, they are a problem. Billionaires are not the problem, they are a problem. And so on, with poor government policies, generally poor attitudes from benefits system abusers, slipping standards in our society around 'low level' crimes, and so on.

Migrants entering the UK and being perceived a certain way is a far wider, far more nuanced issue than some would have us believe, and until people (generally working class people... and by that I mean all those who require an income) start to shout louder about wider issues and to question narratives more, people will remain divided on the components and fail to push forward on the bigger problems.

The thing is that a lot of the working people e.g. people who I know shout more about migrants, scroungers etc because they see that first hand every day. They see the amount of time it takes to get a doctors appointment, they see migrants forming their own communities, we all know benefits scroungers. They see things that impact them on a daily basis, not so much the billionaire tax dodgers.

[millersrus]

[QUOTE=UlleyMiller;40817160]Two things can be true at the same time. I've no doubt at all that there are a large number of people who claim benefits to top up poor wages, and many will work very hard. That's an inevitable outcome of a lower than reasonable minimum wage, an inefficient approach to benefits, and swathes of business owners who hide behind these things (and the "I take all the risks" gambit) to justify piss poor wages for employees and low-tax, excessive payments to them and theirs.

But, the fact that these issues are rife, does not take away from the fact that there are countless benefits system abusers, generations deep, often without jobs at all but in many cases they meticulously plan jobs and hours around being able to maximise the handouts. I remember far back enough that I can recall a stigma around this, but that's seemingly replaced by either denial that it happens, or by the "I'm better off not working" shrug.



The national minimum wage has just gone up by 8.1%, it?s one of the highest in the world. Some may say it?s too high and will effect employment.
Young people losing jobs is on the rise. Hard to say whether it?s the minimum wage or just the generaly poor state economy as a whole that?s causing the job losses.
You say it’s too low, What would you consider to be a reasonable minimum wage?

[animallittle3]

[QUOTE=millersrus;40817313]

Two things can be true at the same time. I've no doubt at all that there are a large number of people who claim benefits to top up poor wages, and many will work very hard. That's an inevitable outcome of a lower than reasonable minimum wage, an inefficient approach to benefits, and swathes of business owners who hide behind these things (and the "I take all the risks" gambit) to justify piss poor wages for employees and low-tax, excessive payments to them and theirs.

But, the fact that these issues are rife, does not take away from the fact that there are countless benefits system abusers, generations deep, often without jobs at all but in many cases they meticulously plan jobs and hours around being able to maximise the handouts. I remember far back enough that I can recall a stigma around this, but that's seemingly replaced by either denial that it happens, or by the "I'm better off not working" shrug.



The national minimum wage has just gone up by 8.1%, it?s one of the highest in the world. Some may say it?s too high and will effect employment.
Young people losing jobs is on the rise. Hard to say whether it?s the minimum wage or just the generaly poor state economy as a whole that?s causing the job losses.
You say it’s too low, What would you consider to be a reasonable minimum wage?

My opinion is that if you can't pay a living wage then you haven't got a viable business .

This isn't a who owns the means of production argument this is simply about making work pay which then feed in to the economy whilst also giving people in lower paid jobs the respect they deserve .

[millersrus]

I incorrectly typed 8.1% for the increase in national adult minimum wage NMW, it?s actually 8.4% increase.
The national living wage ( over 21 year olds ) increase was 4.1%

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[UlleyMiller]

The national minimum wage has just gone up by 8.1%, it?s one of the highest in the world. Some may say it?s too high and will effect employment.
Young people losing jobs is on the rise. Hard to say whether it?s the minimum wage or just the generaly poor state economy as a whole that?s causing the job losses.
You say it’s too low, What would you consider to be a reasonable minimum wage?

Minimum wage should be the break point where a full working week (35 hours upward) attracts zero benefits. If benefits are required to top up wages, or pay for anything else which other tax payers are on the hook for, then the minimum wage is too low.

That's the starting point.

Minimum wage should be enough to pay for a place to live, utilities, council tax, and a reasonable amount left over to live in a developed nation. Not suggesting brand new phone/games console/insert others, but enough to eat and have a handful of choices with what's left.

There should also be far stricter checks in place to rid ourselves of scenarios where people work short weeks purely because benefits will top up their income. Fully appreciate that part time work is required by some, and some employers are better served by part time labour, but I'd imagine most of us know of people on both sides of the fence who are happy to let the state intervene. 6.5m families being supported by universal credits is insane.

Anecdotally, we seem to be brilliant at chasing self-employed workers for every pound of tax they owe, so there should be no reason we can't get a lot tighter on making sure people are working full time, with focus on both the employer and employee.

[Spuddy Speight]

Cost of living crisis and other issues now affecting many lives in the UK and beyond.


"Sports star Conor McGregor has released a video message addressed to protesters in Ireland, publicly declaring strong support for the nationwide anti-government movement. His statement comes as Ireland faces several consecutive days of large-scale protests and blockades across the country."

"The government?s inability to ease the cost-of-living pressures on citizens, and what he called a disastrous handling of immigration that has overwhelmed local communities and public services."

"The former UFC champion stated that the ?true face? of the government has now been exposed and urged Irish citizens to unite in pursuit of fairness in living costs, treatment, taxation, and the right to be heard."

"He emphasized that the immediate goal should be to await a vote to remove what he described as a ?failed government? that no longer represents the people."


"At the same time, some critics accuse officials of attempting to discredit protesters by labeling them as ?far-right extremists.? However, footage from the ground appears to show that many participants are ordinary working-class citizens, including truck drivers, farmers, women, and even families with children.

UFC legend Conor McGregor just SHATTERED the silence! While mainstream media stays DEAD SILENT about the chaos on the streets, the ?Notorious? has gone rogue! .
Sports star Conor McGregor has released a video message addressed to protesters in Ireland, publicly declaring strong support for the nationwide anti-government movement. His statement comes as Ireland faces several consecutive days of large-scale protests and blockades across the country

In his message, McGregor claimed that the current government has completely lost public trust, regardless of political affiliation. He sharply criticized a range of policies he described as total failures, including the housing crisis.

The government?s inability to ease the cost-of-living pressures on citizens, and what he called a disastrous handling of immigration that has overwhelmed local communities and public services.

The former UFC champion stated that the ?true face? of the government has now been exposed and urged Irish citizens to unite in pursuit of fairness in living costs, treatment, taxation, and the right to be heard.

He emphasized that the immediate goal should be to await a vote to remove what he described as a ?failed government? that no longer represents the people.

The protest movement in Ireland continues to evolve in complex ways. Authorities have reportedly deployed police and military forces to maintain control in areas affected by demonstrations.

At the same time, some critics accuse officials of attempting to discredit protesters by labeling them as ?far-right extremists.? However, footage from the ground appears to show that many participants are ordinary working-class citizens, including truck drivers, farmers, women, and even families with children.


"Despite the growing scale of the unrest, mainstream domestic and international media outlets are alleged to be imposing a ?media blackout,? significantly limiting coverage of the events.

As a result, much of the information surrounding the crisis is being shared and updated primarily through independent social media platforms such as X.

McGregor?s public intervention, given his massive influence, is widely seen as a potential turning point?one that could energize the protest movement further and intensify political pressure on the Irish government in the coming period."

[millersrus]

A failing nation, on its way down.
Is there any hope.

Last one out, switch off the lights.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-b...-gaskell-3zl7e

[UlleyMiller]

Cost of living crisis and other issues now affecting many lives in the UK and beyond.


"Sports star Conor McGregor...

Could have ended it there. "Washed up, cocaine abuser doing anything for attention" would have been a quicker way to describe everything below that.

[Spuddy Speight]

Quote Originally Posted by Spuddy Speight View Post
Cost of living crisis and other issues now affecting many lives in the UK and beyond.

"Sports star Conor McGregor...
UlleyMiller said
"Could have ended it there. "Washed up, cocaine abuser doing anything for attention" would have been a quicker way to describe everything below that."

UlleyMiller,
Your source around CG's alleged drug taking is?
Your response might be a tad libellous don't you think?


For what it's worth CM has been across several social media outlets with his criticisms of Government. I didn't just make that up, unlike some of my Limericks.