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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    "I do ask myself time and again, if one has many millions, how much more does one need? " Need or want? If you plan to buy a football club, plenty? At some point aspiration likely becomes an obsession.....why else are you or I still working?

    As for saving tax - well you can save it short term but when you are dead the Treasury rape and pillage you. That hard earned pension pot you have saved for will soon disappear at up to 60% roughly. Yes the mega rich will find ways and means, but for the "average hard working guy" pulling down say 100-150k a year any tax planning will likely more defer the tax than avoid it. Low income earners dont pay that tax, high income earners likely can delay or avoid it. Thos in the middle are screwed one way or the other. Inter generational wealth is rapidly becoming a thing of that past for most people so it you want to leave anything substantial to your kids then you probably do need "that one more million".
    I've no issue with wealthy people actually using their money to say buy a football club, like Clowes, though he has been sensible and done it through a subsidiary of his company to limit his liability or indeed to fund other projects that have a wider benefit. Actually I've no objection to anybody being wealthy, but quit the whining about paying your tax dues!!

    I've got trust arrangements for my childrens inheritance, so no raping and pillaging by the Treasury for me. Plus I've given them financial help over the years within whats allowed, as I don't see the point of heirs inheriting money later in life when its generally earlier on in adult life its most helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post

    All I’m actually advocating is that we all know what is desirable in terms of educational facilities, wouldn’t it be better to share them around a little more?
    Relevant to that, and I don't know if you saw the news this am, Michael Vaughan is launching a new competition for state schools, 'The Stokes Knight Trophy', and gave thanks to 'the independent sector' for providing access to 'facilities' (I presume he meant pitches)

    And relevant to that, though not making any particular point: I am a member of a 'former pupils' forum for my old (state) school, at the time I left a very sporty school with six football/rugby pitches, two cricket squares, a full size (rare back then) athletics track and associated gubbins, and five tennis courts (one grass!). Apparently its ALL gone now, replaced by housing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Relevant to that, and I don't know if you saw the news this am, Michael Vaughan is launching a new competition for state schools, 'The Stokes Knight Trophy', and gave thanks to 'the independent sector' for providing access to 'facilities' (I presume he meant pitches)

    And relevant to that, though not making any particular point: I am a member of a 'former pupils' forum for my old (state) school, at the time I left a very sporty school with six football/rugby pitches, two cricket squares, a full size (rare back then) athletics track and associated gubbins, and five tennis courts (one grass!). Apparently its ALL gone now, replaced by housing...
    Sadly I think that’s a story replicated hundreds of times across the country, AF, as state schools have been forced to sell off land to try and raise money to renovate and replace outdated buildings.

    Good for Vaughan, who was actually educated in a state comprehensive. Coincidentally I have a couple of grandchildren and, rather longer ago, a son who have all enjoyed success at cricket. Again sadly I have to say that their achievements have been almost entirely down to the influence and efforts of people within their local cricket club rather than the school system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    Sadly I think that’s a story replicated hundreds of times across the country, AF, as state schools have been forced to sell off land to try and raise money to renovate and replace outdated buildings.

    Good for Vaughan, who was actually educated in a state comprehensive. Coincidentally I have a couple of grandchildren and, rather longer ago, a son who have all enjoyed success at cricket. Again sadly I have to say that their achievements have been almost entirely down to the influence and efforts of people within their local cricket club rather than the school system.
    Rather reinforcing your point about the 'chasm', my eldest daughter played for the school girls cricket team and helped coach the seconds...

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    Having just seen the ten o'clock news headlines, I'm surprised we haven't seen a post from Sith with a helpful link and the words 'surely he has to resign'

    forum problems again I guess

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    Another story about Starmer??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone View Post
    Another story about Starmer??
    No the same one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    No the same one
    What? You mean the one about him still standing up to an insane POTUS ‘ravaging’ (Pope’s word) the world with illegal war…or him leading a government that has seen NHS waiting lists fall to their lowest in three years?

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    BGS. 4 rugby pitches, athletics track (grass) and a cricket square with a decent pavilion as well. Pavilion became dangerous and was demolished, not rebuilt. All the pitches are still there, fortunately.

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    I assume AF is referring to the mandelson story for which the government and starmer find themselves on increasingly rocky ground.

    Not sure i need to provide any links as, because its Starmer/ Labour its getting headlines on pretty much all news outlets.

    But confused that AF take on it is to come straight on here and use it as an opportunity to have a dig at a forum member.

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