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    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    No, but better than you and BigLad and all the other 'geniuses' combined.
    I can at least back up my opinion with coaching badges from the FA and if I only had the Level 1 coaching badge it is still more knowledge about tactics than you will ever know mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    I can at least back up my opinion with coaching badges from the FA and if I only had the Level 1 coaching badge it is still more knowledge about tactics than you will ever know mate.
    And therefore, by extension, Warney’s qualifications mean he knows far more than you, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLadonOS View Post
    I can at least back up my opinion with coaching badges from the FA and if I only had the Level 1 coaching badge it is still more knowledge about tactics than you will ever know mate.
    Good attempt at a joke there BigLad. I think I've got you sussed. You think that we have a team of skilled operators that can master the opposition's high press, eg Barnsley.

    Time to come clean. You are Wilesy's mum, yes? Or is it Mrs Vassell?

    Time to fess up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    . Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    Some of the criticisms on here of PW are as best unhelpful, at worst disrespectful and certainly unwarranted.
    He's had so many issues go against him this season and he's been swimming against the tide for a long time now.

    A lengthy injury list and never being able to put out a settled squad
    Players clearly still affected with personal issues
    LTI,s involving two of our most influential players this season in SMac and Oggy
    He's had to self isolate and miss games and training sessions
    Covid within his own family
    His marquee signing in Hirst has turned out to be ineffective and remember that most of us endorsed this signing
    This covid outbreak
    EFL allowing points to be gifted back to a relegation rival
    EFL singling us out with our own special playing circumstances
    Lapses in concentration and bad luck in overtime with us shipping hard earned points
    Questionable refereeing decisions and assessments of reasonable time to add on at the end of a game
    There's probably more

    There's a transfer window about to open, players are starting to come back from injury and we,ve played than less than half of our games.
    The least we can do is Give the lad a chance to turn it around. No point with the sustained criticism, it won't help us accumulate some points and will erode confidence at the club. The criticism from a month or so ago seeped its way to the players and management team and clearly affected Warney

    There was an article in the Yorkshire Post recently, or it may have been the Star, where Neil Warnock says he fully endorses PW as our long term solution. He even went as far as advising Tony on the golf course not to do anything rash. So for the master tacticians on here there is an endorsement from one of the greatest Managers and tacticians we have witnessed in that PW is the right man for us.
    Some good points made there flour, but PW can't be above criticism, as long as its constructive. I love our manager to bits, but all season he has been constantly saying how good the quality of opposition are, and whilst I dont disagree with him, it cant be good for the confidence of our players to keep hearing or reading these things so I would prefer him to concentrate more on what we can do, and keep his thoughts more to himself.
    With the injury list we have, I just hope we can keep within touching distance of the 4th bottom team until a few of them are back, because if we can then we will have a real shout at survival, but if we get cast adrift then it's a long way back, and we could be as good as relegated. All in all we gave it a decent shot last night against an in form team, and on the plus side we didn't get hammered, which considering the circumstances, was a bonus.
    We move on to the next game and surely we now know we can compete, even with the virus in the camp, so let's stop worrying about things that we cant control, like the EFL making us play, and concentrate on how best to overcome it, UTM.

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    Warney wants to get back behind the xmas tree like his xmas message, that is scary! Anybody been watching horseracing been 4 days of exciting, informative action. Advert for some bookies on there, this Scotchman looks abit like Steve Evans after his horse wins shouting " I love you!!! " brilliant!

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    There’s now a motm vote after games on our official Twitter account, Smith won this one
    Was only a choice of four, not sure I agree with the four picked, maybe two of them

    Jamie Lindsay
    10.2%
    Richard Wood
    8.3%
    Michael Smith
    66.3%
    Ben Wiles
    15.2%


    https://t.co/V7tYhEQ4Tc?amp=1
    Last edited by millertop; 30-12-2020 at 11:33 AM.

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    Can't disagree with those saying we have swam even more against the tide than ordinarily in this division. It does seem to conspire against us, but given the shortcomings I guess I would say that. Not excuses but really valid reasons. If we are within touching distance by the time we get Ogbene etc back, hopefully got a new LB in Jan and others perhaps then I do feel we can and will survive. I suppose that is the biggest 'if' at the moment. Can we stay in touch?

    We have the crux of a championship team but it's the peripherys where we are falling down in my opinion. We desperately need width in our game to stretch teams and get better angled crosses etc as lumping it down the middle is so easy to defend. We know we need a LB to be a steady presence and to allow Wiles to go back in the middle where he is best. Smudge is proving that he can score goals with the right service and Ladapo will too. That's the biggest issue for me, the positions we cross from etc, just far too deep and they are hopeful punts rather than whipped balls across. Last night smudge got to the byline and cut it back, caused problems and Hirst tried the spectacular. We must find a way to get in behind with natural width. We all know defenders hate running backwards and defending the six yard line...


    Keep the faith, we can do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mygiddypant View Post
    But couldn't you spot that it was lost in the dressing room? Or that Warney made his usual catastrophic substitutions? Or that the tactics were, at best, pub car park?

    You've got a lot to learn!

    I don't agree that it was lost in the dressing room. It was lost by Ihiekwe being caught in a poor position defensively which allowed a through ball to be played and because Wiles lost it in a position where we were very susceptible to the counter.

    If you look just a few posts up I explained what I think we need in terms of tactics which clearly makes the point that lump ball from anywhere doesnt work and we need width etc for better quality balls in the box. Personally I would like to see more of Miller as he offers natural width. Who knows why we didnt, on bench to just make up numbers or a poor decision not to utilise him in the latter stages.

    Not really sure why you're gunning for me when I've not even defended the tactics or subs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillersTime View Post
    I don't agree that it was lost in the dressing room. It was lost by Ihiekwe being caught in a poor position defensively which allowed a through ball to be played and because Wiles lost it in a position where we were very susceptible to the counter.

    If you look just a few posts up I explained what I think we need in terms of tactics which clearly makes the point that lump ball from anywhere doesnt work and we need width etc for better quality balls in the box. Personally I would like to see more of Miller as he offers natural width. Who knows why we didnt, on bench to just make up numbers or a poor decision not to utilise him in the latter stages.

    Not really sure why you're gunning for me when I've not even defended the tactics or subs....
    Hope I’m not wrong, but I thought mr giddy pant was being ironic.

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