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[Jampie]

A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Anybody still making excuses for his time at Notts is simply trying to rationalise their own failure to spot the bleeding obvious later than just about everybody else.

Digging yourself further into that hole is not going to encourage people to respect your opinion.

Sad rhetoric doesn't make your ill informed opinions facts.

[countygump]

Sad rhetoric doesn't make your ill informed opinions facts.

Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Personally, I would call those stone cold 'facts'.

[upthemaggies]

Losers back losers.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

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You thought he was having a dig at me didn't you pops..?

[PedroTheFisherman66]

A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Anybody still making excuses for his time at Notts is simply trying to rationalise their own failure to spot the bleeding obvious later than just about everybody else.

Digging yourself further into that hole is not going to encourage people to respect your opinion.

Expertly summed up...this all day long..!

[magpie_mania]

A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Anybody still making excuses for his time at Notts is simply trying to rationalise their own failure to spot the bleeding obvious later than just about everybody else.

Digging yourself further into that hole is not going to encourage people to respect your opinion.

I don't think he was an idol to anyone.

But some of the comments are simply ridiculous. He is accused on here of having a terrible defence, when the truth is that we didn't. Instead, the point is argued that it was at the expense of goals. No-one is saying it wasn't, that comment was in reply to the awful defence one.

Now look at your post. 'failed to do the job he was kept on to do .... twice'. Not true. He failed (just) once, and whether he would have failed a second time, we will never know. Cue ......'no chance we were going up'. Even if you say that, it doesn't change that your comment is not true.

On to signings ..... posted on here that his loan signings (apart from. Ellis) were awful, yet Calvin Miller is lauded as a superstar! It was said that his permanent signings are useless ..... The very same ones that received standing ovations last week.

Of course, it is absolutely true that he couldn't get them playing, but that is a completely different argument.

Posting things that are opinion as fact won't get people's respect either!

[Killerkline]

I don't think he was an idol to anyone.

But some of the comments are simply ridiculous. He is accused on here of having a terrible defence, when the truth is that we didn't. Instead, the point is argued that it was at the expense of goals. No-one is saying it wasn't, that comment was in reply to the awful defence one.

Now look at your post. 'failed to do the job he was kept on to do .... twice'. Not true. He failed (just) once, and whether he would have failed a second time, we will never know. Cue ......'no chance we were going up'. Even if you say that, it doesn't change that your comment is not true.

On to signings ..... posted on here that his loan signings (apart from. Ellis) were awful, yet Calvin Miller is lauded as a superstar! It was said that his permanent signings are useless ..... The very same ones that received standing ovations last week.

Of course, it is absolutely true that he couldn't get them playing, but that is a completely different argument.

Posting things that are opinion as fact won't get people's respect either!

Cracking post

[magpie_mania]

Personally I find it highly amusing when people who couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag criticise someone who got a League Two team promoted who were also poorer than us, and then kept them in league one on a shoestring budget. Wonder how he managed that?

I suppose that and getting us into the playoff spots in this league counts for nothing.

Ye men of few ideas...

Golden rule on here applies:

Anything Ardley did right, or games won - lucky.

Keep up!

[laddo]

Personally I find it highly amusing when people who couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag criticise someone who got a League Two team promoted who were also poorer than us, and then kept them in league one on a shoestring budget. Wonder how he managed that?

I suppose that and getting us into the playoff spots in this league counts for nothing.

Ye men of few ideas...

I'm told that he only got promoted with Wimbledon because he was lucky, it was the playoff lottery after all he only finished 5th.

[laddo]

A player going back to his former club to manage is a very different set of circumstances. Ardley failed to do the job he was brought in to do at Notts and then failed to do the job he was kept on to do, not once but twice. If he goes on to make a success of himself elsewhere, it's not going to change what he did here, that is set in stone now.

Anybody still making excuses for his time at Notts is simply trying to rationalise their own failure to spot the bleeding obvious later than just about everybody else.

Digging yourself further into that hole is not going to encourage people to respect your opinion.

When viewed in complete isolation then I agree with (almost) every word.

But that's not the real world is it, that's not the whole story. Completely ignoring the impact of all others during NAs tenure is also not going get you taken seriously either.

He's old news, he's gone, he's another Notts manager who failed. Many many managers have also failed at Notts before him, he just joins a long list of failures.

Maybe it has something more to do with the club than all those managers who also failed along with NA.

Regardless it's all Burchnall baby now, and I'm 'All in'#ChooChoo