O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[jackal2]

Worth reiterating. Putin isn't a Communist nor a Socialist. He is a Capitalist based on Russian Oligarch principles. The Russian 'working class' will be paying for the invasion for many years to come, as will the Ukraine.

In one sense that's true, but of course we are talking about a former KGB officer and the 'utopia' in his mind that he is effectively trying to re-create is the old USSR - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

I don't think Putin's motivation is a politically-driven desire to advance capitalism, socialism or communism around the world. His motivation is to protect and extend his own power and impose his will on others, and he will say and do whatever he thinks is expedient to achieve that.

Narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths will adopt whatever political shape suits them at any given time, and will often contradict themselves wildly, because ultimately it's just a means to an end, and that end is their own benefit.

[cher1]

If anyone would like to read the recent article linked by Hissing, you can read it here:

https://archive.fo/AmS6s

[hissingdwarf]

If anyone would like to read the recent article linked by Hissing, you can read it here:

https://archive.fo/AmS6s

Many Thanks Cher. Well found!

[keldsyke]

So some Russian banks are now going to be cut off the Swift system, just announced

[hissingdwarf]

So some Russian banks are now going to be cut off the Swift system, just announced

Yep. It’ll put a dint in the Russian economy for sure, but it’s been expecting it. Plus the statement is ‘selected’ banks so there is still some wiggle room.
Got to better than Germanys first offer of help. “We’ll send you 5000 helmets.” I’m pretty sure there is a German joke in there somewhere!

[keldsyke]

Yep. It’ll put a dint in the Russian economy for sure, but it’s been expecting it. Plus the statement is ‘selected’ banks so there is still some wiggle room.
Got to better than Germanys first offer of help. “We’ll send you 5000 helmets.” I’m pretty sure there is a German joke in there somewhere!

By the sounds of things earlier today the Germans, French and Dutch are now sending more serious weapons.

The BA situation from yesterday and today is also intriguing, cover up?

[irishpete]

Germans, French bunch of useless b@stards, good for nothing, bar looking after themselves. Olaf, Macron running to Putin like lap dogs. Wouldn't want them in the trenches besides me

[JoePass]

Germans, French bunch of useless b@stards, good for nothing, bar looking after themselves. Olaf, Macron running to Putin like lap dogs. Wouldn't want them in the trenches besides me

Spot on, what do you expect from these surrender monkeys.

[sidders]

Spot on, what do you expect from these surrender monkeys.

Grow up, both of you. This is not trench warfare. Or would you rather wait until you see the whites of your enemy's eyes?

[JoePass]

Grow up, both of you. This is not trench warfare. Or would you rather wait until you see the whites of your enemy's eyes?

We don’t listen to guardian reading t wats.