Can anyone say if

[noahrab]

For a better run country

So ok to be on the bones of our ârse but better run?

[Returnofrros]

Auick question to those against independence.
If we were able to deal with
Homelessness
Immigration
Drug issues
Benefits getting to those entitled to only.
A better funded nhs.
Would it make any difference to those against?
Or is it cash at all costs?
I would happily pay more tax if this was the case.
Strange how we are taking it up the arse with the cost of living,energy prices etc but the thought of a tax hike.
Oh God no.
Strange

I like to spend my own money, no hand it over to someone else to spend for me.

[islaydarkblue]

I'm sure there are many just fed up being ruled by politicians who are so far removed from the reality of most in the UK.
Immigration shambles
Energy costs shambles
Legal system billions wasted over the years.
Policing in UK probably at its lowest in my lifetime.
Striking workers in many areas.
Tory party shambles
Labour party as above but slight recovery
Snp, see Tories.

Not all supporters of independence are snp supporters,I know plenty who think even if we are a bit worse off it would be worth the gamble as it ain't great just now.
I respect those who prefer the union,change is hard to implement and some in employment could be affected If I was in that position I would probably think the same.
I doubt it will happen but the arguments on here are easily solved,it just depends on who you quote.

A vote in favour of Scotland becoming an independent country is a vote for life not like a General Election which is for a maximum of five years.

[islaydarkblue]

Why would anyone vote to make Scotland worse off?

A lot of pro independence supporters are deluded and think that if they wrap themselves in a Scottish flag everything will be wonderful in an independent Scotland.

[jdfc]

Auick question to those against independence.
If we were able to deal with
Homelessness
Immigration
Drug issues
Benefits getting to those entitled to only.
A better funded nhs.
Would it make any difference to those against?
Or is it cash at all costs?
I would happily pay more tax if this was the case.
Strange how we are taking it up the arse with the cost of living,energy prices etc but the thought of a tax hike.
Oh God no.
Strange

Eric, where have you been living, we already pay more tax, yet you want people who are supposedly struggling, using food banks, not able to heat their homes just now to pay even more tax, this independent mob have set this country back decades, they are responsible for the NHS up here, but they’d rather waste money on passing bills on folk with dicks dressing up in skirts, we won’t even mention the £500 million plus wasted on the ferries, but it’s all Westminsters fault, we all agree the mob down south are corrupt, but the SNP have plenty looking after themselves, don’t hear much about the expenses claimed by many of them

[islaydarkblue]

Auick question to those against independence.
If we were able to deal with
Homelessness
Immigration
Drug issues
Benefits getting to those entitled to only.
A better funded nhs.
Would it make any difference to those against?
Or is it cash at all costs?
I would happily pay more tax if this was the case.
Strange how we are taking it up the arse with the cost of living,energy prices etc but the thought of a tax hike.
Oh God no.
Strange

Where is the money to pay for all the issues you have quoted going to come from in an independent Scotland.
Despite having the extra welfare powers that the SNP controlled Scottish Government demanded from Westminster and the record £41 billion they received from Westminster under the rules of the Barnett Formula this year the Scottish Government have stated on numerous occasions that they cannot use these extra welfare powers because they are too expensive to use.
This is the real world not Brigadoon.
There is no point in the SNP MSPs demanding extra powers from Westminster if they are not going to use them.
No wonder all the devolved matters which come under the control of the Scottish Government are shambles and if Humza Yousef is appointed leader of the SNP and First Minister things will get worse not better.
Yousef was hopeless as Transport Minister, Cabinet Secretary for Justice and now Cabinet Secretary for Health.
Normally it is three strikes and you are out but in the SNP controlled Scottish Government it often results in people being promoted to their level of incompetence.
We have the same problem in Dundee Football Club.

[eric_sinclair]

Eric, where have you been living, we already pay more tax, yet you want people who are supposedly struggling, using food banks, not able to heat their homes just now to pay even more tax, this independent mob have set this country back decades, they are responsible for the NHS up here, but they’d rather waste money on passing bills on folk with dicks dressing up in skirts, we won’t even mention the £500 million plus wasted on the ferries, but it’s all Westminsters fault, we all agree the mob down south are corrupt, but the SNP have plenty looking after themselves, don’t hear much about the expenses claimed by many of them

I have not mentioned the snp,I would prefer a strong labour party running scotland,but the amount of wasted cash in Scotland and the UK is incredible and could be far better spent elsewhere.
Justice system,crazy money
Early retirement for polis,fireman etc why?
Methadone program obviously costly and doing heehaw to address problem.
Mps expenses
All this extra cash could help not just Scotland but if yer happy in the UK the whole of the UK.
I've never had much fae the state and earned all my life and like rros like to spend my hard earned but we obviously contribute to help those unable to work.
I would like those in need to get what they need and those lazy ones to have to work like the majority.
Maybe a stronger labour party can start to challenge the snp.
The whole UK is broken it's like being back in the 70,s again.

[eric_sinclair]

Where is the money to pay for all the issues you have quoted going to come from in an independent Scotland.
Despite having the extra welfare powers that the SNP controlled Scottish Government demanded from Westminster and the record £41 billion they received from Westminster under the rules of the Barnett Formula this year the Scottish Government have stated on numerous occasions that they cannot use these extra welfare powers because they are too expensive to use.
This is the real world not Brigadoon.
There is no point in the SNP MSPs demanding extra powers from Westminster if they are not going to use them.
No wonder all the devolved matters which come under the control of the Scottish Government are shambles and if Humza Yousef is appointed leader of the SNP and First Minister things will get worse not better.
Yousef was hopeless as Transport Minister, Cabinet Secretary for Justice and now Cabinet Secretary for Health.
Normally it is three strikes and you are out but in the SNP controlled Scottish Government it often results in people being promoted to their level of incompetence.
We have the same problem in Dundee Football Club.

Did you know Andrew innes the man who killed the woman and child then buried them has appealed?
The right of every killer.
It will cost tens of thousands and that is only if it gets thrown out first time,could go on for years.
Add to that legal aid.
Plenty cash to be saved there for starters.

[jdfc]

I have not mentioned the snp,I would prefer a strong labour party running scotland,but the amount of wasted cash in Scotland and the UK is incredible and could be far better spent elsewhere.
Justice system,crazy money
Early retirement for polis,fireman etc why?
Methadone program obviously costly and doing heehaw to address problem.
Mps expenses
All this extra cash could help not just Scotland but if yer happy in the UK the whole of the UK.
I've never had much fae the state and earned all my life and like rros like to spend my hard earned but we obviously contribute to help those unable to work.
I would like those in need to get what they need and those lazy ones to have to work like the majority.
Maybe a stronger labour party can start to challenge the snp.
The whole UK is broken it's like being back in the 70,s again.

If labour get in in Scotland then you can be sure they would be in control of the whole uk, they ain’t going to give up control by granting independence, I’d vote for any party that lowers the retirement age, and ups the pension, but unfortunately it won’t happen, every party that’s ever been in control squander the cash, it’s because of social media we are hearing more about it

[jdfc]

Did you know Andrew innes the man who killed the woman and child then buried them has appealed?
The right of every killer.
It will cost tens of thousands and that is only if it gets thrown out first time,could go on for years.
Add to that legal aid.
Plenty cash to be saved there for starters.

Is it not just the length of sentence he’s appealing