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Thread: Next up, Friday night away to Alloa

  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by no1arabbelfast View Post
    Ah ins, meh fault.

    :-(

    Agreed

  2. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by ballumbie_arab View Post
    We’ve been sh!te for weeks, and now getting the results that reflect our performances!!
    I totally agree. 😐

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Both of those without Shankland and we were excellent, McMullan played left

    Team was

    Seigrist
    Smith Watson Reynolds Robson
    Butcher Stanton
    Appere Harkes McMullan
    Clark

    And when Shankland was available during the same run i(at dens etc) it was with McMullan back on right

    Seigrist
    Smith Watson Reynolds Robson
    McMullan Butcher Harkes Appere
    Clark Shankland


    So four players different to tonight and other recent games.
    Thanks for the info

    You posted this lineup and I'm pretty sure many would agree it's our strongest although Stanton seemed to be pushing for a berth in it with his later performances. Anyway, here is the lineup

    Seigrist
    Smith Watson Reynolds Robson
    McMullan Butcher Harkes Appere
    Clark Shankland

    So if I'm right there's 3 players there that didn't play tonight, McMullan Appere Clark.

    The bit I dont get is if it's the managers job to coach a regular set up for home and away, he should know which player replaces any player dropping out. So why are we getting so many lineup permutations? 3 midfielders, Pawlett back in, Sow back in, and so on? Any good team has a set formation for home definitely and usually away too, eg 442 home 4321 away, or the same home and away. The players get used to it, they get used to each other and a player coming into the lineup should be playing the role he's given so that the playing pattern remains constant and understanding improves. Robbie seems to be changing it so often that a style and a winning way of playing isn't being allowed to settle and develop. Sometimes when I watch matches I'm thinking the players don't know each other. And dont get me started on the technical ability but that's probably a different thread altogether.

    This isn't meant to be criticism for the sake of it, I'm genuinely mystified with these players why we're not seeing settled decent football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Thanks for the info

    You posted this lineup and I'm pretty sure many would agree it's our strongest although Stanton seemed to be pushing for a berth in it with his later performances. Anyway, here is the lineup

    Seigrist
    Smith Watson Reynolds Robson
    McMullan Butcher Harkes Appere
    Clark Shankland

    So if I'm right there's 3 players there that didn't play tonight, McMullan Appere Clark.

    The bit I dont get is if it's the managers job to coach a regular set up for home and away, he should know which player replaces any player dropping out. So why are we getting so many lineup permutations? 3 midfielders, Pawlett back in, Sow back in, and so on? Any good team has a set formation for home definitely and usually away too, eg 442 home 4321 away, or the same home and away. The players get used to it, they get used to each other and a player coming into the lineup should be playing the role he's given so that the playing pattern remains constant and understanding improves. Robbie seems to be changing it so often that a style and a winning way of playing isn't being allowed to settle and develop. Sometimes when I watch matches I'm thinking the players don't know each other. And dont get me started on the technical ability but that's probably a different thread altogether.

    This isn't meant to be criticism for the sake of it, I'm genuinely mystified with these players why we're not seeing settled decent football.
    'technical ability' and 'decent football'...
    Sigh... If only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    Starting 3 x CM’s again hadn’t helped! F uck all on the right wing
    4 Centre mids

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjaflup22 View Post
    Exactly, and some folk on here don't think we need many additions to the team for next year! Unreal. That was absolute p1sh tonight, yet again.
    We need at least 7 or 8 new players to even compete in the bottom 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Before all the injuries and the changes to the squad

    We were always going to have a spell like this again, especially being so far ahead

    That's football.
    Ye I kinda agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Before all the injuries and the changes to the squad

    We were always going to have a spell like this again, especially being so far ahead

    That's football.
    Perhaps, but drawing at home to Morton and away to Alloa (part time team) who are both near the bottom of the league, coupled with a loss at home to Arbroath, who are also a part time team, is simply not acceptable.
    I firmly rest most of the blame at Robbie for trying to (and I quote offshore) fit “square pegs into round holes”. You can say all you want about injuries forcing team changes, but FFS, put like for like players into the team, to keep the same system, not fecking change both, and have an unbalanced team. That is exactly what happened earlier in the season, why doesn’t the stubborn bassa fecking learn from his mistakes??
    Trust me, other teams will start to smell blood, if we don’t get our sh!t together very soon, and next week is the proverbial “SIX POINTER” that’s for sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballumbie_arab View Post
    Perhaps, but drawing at home to Morton and away to Alloa (part time team) who are both near the bottom of the league, coupled with a loss at home to Arbroath, who are also a part time team, is simply not acceptable.
    I firmly rest most of the blame at Robbie for trying to (and I quote offshore) fit “square pegs into round holes”. You can say all you want about injuries forcing team changes, but FFS, put like for like players into the team, to keep the same system, not fecking change both, and have an unbalanced team. That is exactly what happened earlier in the season, why doesn’t the stubborn bassa fecking learn from his mistakes??
    Trust me, other teams will start to smell blood, if we don’t get our sh!t together very soon, and next week is the proverbial “SIX POINTER” that’s for sure!!
    I honestly don't think being part time in this league really matters and I don't think being "near the bottom of the league" matters either as Alloa are only 7 points away from a play off spot and Morton & Arbroath even closer.

    I headed through last night not expecting to win and if I'm being honest the game went exactly as I thought it would. It was an improvement on the last time we were there when Alloa pi55ed all over us though but that is the only positive I can take from last night(and the peh on a roll which was surprisingly tasty)

    I agree though that we should be doing better v Arbroath and Morton at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballumbie_arab View Post
    Perhaps, but drawing at home to Morton and away to Alloa (part time team) who are both near the bottom of the league, coupled with a loss at home to Arbroath, who are also a part time team, is simply not acceptable.
    I firmly rest most of the blame at Robbie for trying to (and I quote offshore) fit “square pegs into round holes”. You can say all you want about injuries forcing team changes, but FFS, put like for like players into the team, to keep the same system, not fecking change both, and have an unbalanced team. That is exactly what happened earlier in the season, why doesn’t the stubborn bassa fecking learn from his mistakes??
    Trust me, other teams will start to smell blood, if we don’t get our sh!t together very soon, and next week is the proverbial “SIX POINTER” that’s for sure!!
    Bang on.

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