O/T booster jabs.

[MillerBill]

The big surge in this new omicron is in London,surprise surprise London being one of the lowest take ups on the vaccine.Whereas in Yorkshire and the North East it is the lowest in cases but highest in vaccine take up..Up here we know taking the jabs is the sensible route.Pity it's the ones who don't believe it are the ones who creating the panic.

[PokerMillersSwinton]

Got my booster on SUNDAY

[gm_gm]

Just checked the government website and hospitalisation are still failing despite the rise in cases, this hopefully suggests two things. firstly, the vacs are working and secondly, its as the experts in South Africa has told us that its very mild.

[ragingpup]

Just checked the government website and hospitalisation are still failing despite the rise in cases, this hopefully suggests two things. firstly, the vacs are working and secondly, its as the experts in South Africa has told us that its very mild.

Where are you getting the data that hospitalisation rates are 'still falling' gm?

I've just checked on there:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

And it says that the hospitalisation rate from covid has risen by 10.4%. Are you looking at a different source from this? I thought this was the gov't source?!

[gm_gm]

Where are you getting the data that hospitalisation rates are 'still falling' gm?

I've just checked on there:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

And it says that the hospitalisation rate from covid has risen by 10.4%. Are you looking at a different source from this? I thought this was the gov't source?!

taken from the govt website pup

15-12-2021 7,579
14-12-2021 7,687
13-12-2021 7,697
12-12-2021 7,483
11-12-2021 7,365
10-12-2021 7,401
09-12-2021 7,449
08-12-2021 7,384
07-12-2021 7,367
06-12-2021 7,383
05-12-2021 7,279
04-12-2021 7,180
03-12-2021 7,330
02-12-2021 7,420
01-12-2021 7,350
30-11-2021 7,676
29-11-2021 7,668
28-11-2021 7,440
27-11-2021 7,411
26-11-2021 7,566
25-11-2021 7,666
24-11-2021 7,676
23-11-2021 7,924
22-11-2021 8,140
21-11-2021 8,046
20-11-2021 7,951
19-11-2021 8,073
18-11-2021 8,126
17-11-2021 8,226
16-11-2021 8,475
15-11-2021 8,753
14-11-2021 8,594
13-11-2021 8,508
12-11-2021 8,645
11-11-2021 8,738
10-11-2021 8,891
09-11-2021 8,963
08-11-2021 9,013
07-11-2021 8,865
06-11-2021 8,845
05-11-2021 9,091
04-11-2021 9,292
03-11-2021 9,439
02-11-2021 9,654
01-11-2021 9,671
31-10-2021 9,426
30-10-2021 9,272
29-10-2021 9,221
28-10-2021 9,125
27-10-2021 9,047
26-10-2021 8,942
25-10-2021 8,826
24-10-2021 8,502
23-10-2021 8,333
22-10-2021 8,340
21-10-2021 8,357
20-10-2021 8,263
19-10-2021 8,007
18-10-2021 7,858
17-10-2021 7,490
16-10-2021 7,219
15-10-2021 7,193
14-10-2021 7,181
13-10-2021 7,123
12-10-2021 7,109
11-10-2021 7,081
10-10-2021 6,927
09-10-2021 6,755
08-10-2021 6,811
07-10-2021 6,833
06-10-2021 6,884
05-10-2021 6,899
04-10-2021 6,823
03-10-2021 6,633
02-10-2021 6,475
01-10-2021 6,623
30-09-2021 6,792
29-09-2021 6,936
28-09-2021 7,050
27-09-2021 7,067
26-09-2021 6,836
25-09-2021 6,975
24-09-2021 6,929
23-09-2021 7,180
22-09-2021 7,430
21-09-2021 7,637
20-09-2021 7,810
19-09-2021 7,759
18-09-2021 7,707
17-09-2021 7,918
16-09-2021 8,125
15-09-2021 8,407
14-09-2021 8,401
13-09-2021 8,478
12-09-2021 8,255
11-09-2021 8,145
10-09-2021 8,317
09-09-2021 8,146
08-09-2021 8,137
07-09-2021 7,981
06-09-2021 8,037
05-09-2021 7,751
04-09-2021 7,556
03-09-2021 7,671
02-09-2021 7,622
01-09-2021 7,682
31-08-2021 7,678
30-08-2021 7,340
29-08-2021 7,111
28-08-2021 6,980
27-08-2021 7,086
26-08-2021 7,032
25-08-2021 6,987
24-08-2021 6,961
23-08-2021 7,019
22-08-2021 6,749
21-08-2021 6,531
20-08-2021 6,520
19-08-2021 6,509
18-08-2021 6,465
17-08-2021 6,407
16-08-2021 6,383
15-08-2021 6,046
14-08-2021 5,885
13-08-2021 5,988
12-08-2021 5,960
11-08-2021 6,005
10-08-2021 6,020
09-08-2021 6,018
08-08-2021 5,857
07-08-2021 5,703
06-08-2021 5,752
05-08-2021 5,755
04-08-2021 5,792
03-08-2021 6,006
02-08-2021 6,215
01-08-2021 5,982
31-07-2021 5,958
30-07-2021 6,019
29-07-2021 5,986
28-07-2021 6,107
27-07-2021 6,098
26-07-2021 6,004
25-07-2021 5,648
24-07-2021 5,379
23-07-2021 5,312
22-07-2021 5,102
21-07-2021 4,930
20-07-2021 4,742
19-07-2021 4,651
18-07-2021 4,347
17-07-2021 4,231
16-07-2021 4,151
15-07-2021 4,038
14-07-2021 3,857
13-07-2021 3,673
12-07-2021 3,458
11-07-2021 3,182
10-07-2021 3,036
09-07-2021 2,939
08-07-2021 2,768
07-07-2021 2,681
06-07-2021 2,486
05-07-2021 2,364
04-07-2021 2,178
03-07-2021 2,058
02-07-2021 2,014
01-07-2021 1,937
30-06-2021 1,827
29-06-2021 1,748
28-06-2021 1,745
27-06-2021 1,607
26-06-2021 1,546
25-06-2021 1,539
24-06-2021 1,518
23-06-2021 1,497
22-06-2021 1,543
21-06-2021 1,519
20-06-2021 1,385
19-06-2021 1,350
18-06-2021 1,365
17-06-2021 1,323
16-06-2021 1,258
15-06-2021 1,233
14-06-2021 1,182
13-06-2021 1,141
12-06-2021 1,106
11-06-2021 1,077
10-06-2021 1,095
09-06-2021 1,064
08-06-2021 1,057
07-06-2021 1,035
06-06-2021 964
05-06-2021 938
04-06-2021 965
03-06-2021 938
02-06-2021 961
01-06-2021 930
31-05-2021 929
30-05-2021 907
29-05-2021 887
28-05-2021 886
27-05-2021 872
26-05-2021 895
25-05-2021 921
24-05-2021 960
23-05-2021 924
22-05-2021 887
21-05-2021 922
20-05-2021 912
19-05-2021 918
18-05-2021 898
17-05-2021 943
16-05-2021 941
15-05-2021 966
14-05-2021 976
13-05-2021 1,001
12-05-2021 1,068
11-05-2021 1,106
10-05-2021 1,129
09-05-2021 1,118
08-05-2021 1,137
07-05-2021 1,157
06-05-2021 1,159
05-05-2021 1,239
04-05-2021 1,295
03-05-2021 1,303
02-05-2021 1,285
01-05-2021 1,287
30-04-2021 1,366
29-04-2021 1,464
28-04-2021 1,515
27-04-2021 1,572
26-04-2021 1,649
25-04-2021 1,626
24-04-2021 1,673
23-04-2021 1,749
22-04-2021 1,791
21-04-2021 1,893
20-04-2021 1,926
19-04-2021 2,007
18-04-2021 1,983
17-04-2021 2,035
16-04-2021 2,140
15-04-2021 2,195
14-04-2021 2,295
13-04-2021 2,409

[ragingpup]

[QUOTE=gm_gm;39930824]taken from the govt website pup [QUOTE]

Interesting looking at the data as presentred like that so you can see the patterns of hospitalisations over time.

I would agree that the hospitalisation and death counts are far more significant that cases, and that the media are prone to blow up the case rate significance to sell copy. I get that.

However a precautionary note:

1. The website indicates that just over the last 7 days (up to 12th dec) the hospiatalisation rate has gone up 8.6% against the previous week. Your list of data shows that there have been fluctuations along these lines before so may not be significant. But:
2. Unlike other periods in the fluctuation hospitalisation rates list, there hasn't been anything close to the huge rise in cases as ove rthe last few days and only in the next 2 weeks or so will we see the impact of the cases being reported and those that end up in hospital. On that basis, I think the current reasonable protections of working from home/masks/passports for large events are perfectly reasonable.

On an anecdotal basis, we have had a notable outbreak at my work with 23 out of 90 workers testing positive, most symptoms matching Omicron and whilst not pleasent, pretty much all of the staff are reporting significantly milder symptoms than those who had covid in the previous year: a couple of days of fever, sore throat, headaches and then breaking out into more coldlike symptoms. However, we have quite a young staff, only 2 or 3 of those were even approaching 50. I hope that this is a positive sign but imo the government are right to take action to reduce chances of the NHS being buried. We all can play a part in that with getting the vaccines and boosters the most powerful thing we can do but distancing, masks and not snogging strangers important too.

[gm_gm]

[QUOTE=ragingpup;39930865][QUOTE=gm_gm;39930824]taken from the govt website pup

Interesting looking at the data as presentred like that so you can see the patterns of hospitalisations over time.

I would agree that the hospitalisation and death counts are far more significant that cases, and that the media are prone to blow up the case rate significance to sell copy. I get that.

However a precautionary note:

1. The website indicates that just over the last 7 days (up to 12th dec) the hospiatalisation rate has gone up 8.6% against the previous week. Your list of data shows that there have been fluctuations along these lines before so may not be significant. But:
2. Unlike other periods in the fluctuation hospitalisation rates list, there hasn't been anything close to the huge rise in cases as ove rthe last few days and only in the next 2 weeks or so will we see the impact of the cases being reported and those that end up in hospital. On that basis, I think the current reasonable protections of working from home/masks/passports for large events are perfectly reasonable.

On an anecdotal basis, we have had a notable outbreak at my work with 23 out of 90 workers testing positive, most symptoms matching Omicron and whilst not pleasent, pretty much all of the staff are reporting significantly milder symptoms than those who had covid in the previous year: a couple of days of fever, sore throat, headaches and then breaking out into more coldlike symptoms. However, we have quite a young staff, only 2 or 3 of those were even approaching 50. I hope that this is a positive sign but imo the government are right to take action to reduce chances of the NHS being buried. We all can play a part in that with getting the vaccines and boosters the most powerful thing we can do but distancing, masks and not snogging strangers important too.

Know loads of people who have said they have had lingering colds (3 weeks) Weve all had the same although we tested negative I bet there are quite a few people who think they have cold that have it.

Lets hope if it keeps spreading quickly it continues to be as mild as SA predicted

[MillerBill]

The omicron virus is a very mild version and similar to the common cold. We are told there has been one fatality,which was three days ago and we are still waiting for details on this death.Having been fully vaccinated there is no need for this manufactured hysteria from the "not to be trusted Sage Predictors",who the PM seems to believe every time.Only the ones who have not taken the option of having the vaccine will suffer and hopefully they will come to their senses and get protected.

[fc_miller]

We've been living with cold for years, so when the omicron symptons are described as a common cold like, which we've brought up to know there is no cure for, you can see why some don't see a need for a vaccine.

[KerrAvon]

We don't know that Omicron is mild. South Africa has a much younger population then the UK. There isn't enough UK data yet.

To talk in respect of risk to individuals is to miss the point. We do know that Omicron is far more transmissible than earlier strains. That means that a lot of people are going to get it over a short period of time. Even if only a small proportion develop serious illness that could risk overwhelming the ability of the NHS to provide care (bearing in mind that a lot of NHS staff could be affected).