Sutton Utd

[laddo]

Yes, this thread and many others have been ruined because the mod's advice wasn't heeded, not just by you but mainly by you.
Here are four FACTS. They are not opinions or lies, they are cold, hard FACTS:

FACT 1 - the moderator received complaints from some posters saying threads were being ruined by petty arguments. The moderator decided to set up a specific thread for petty arguments, and asked all those involved to take them there so those who were fed up of them didn't have to read them.

FACT 2 - laddo ignored the moderator and said he would never post on the thread.

FACT 3 - laddo claims he only wants to discuss Notts County and football.

FACT 4 - laddo said he enjoys making other posters look silly.

I'm sure you won't dispute anything there, so read it again and think about it.



Yaaaaawn. I've told you at least a dozen times that the reason I single you out and nobody else is that you claim to be on a 'mission' to improve the board, and nobody else has made that claim. That's why I treat your rank hypocrisy differently to others.

Just what part of that are you still struggling to comprehend?

Alright Rafa Benitez, we get it you like to deal in facts.

Your excuse that you only single me out , impressively demonstrating hypocrisy, inconsistencies and bias all at once, is based purely on my 'mission' which is a bizarre and weak excuse when you openly admit you don't know what the mission is lol. You are a clever enough bloke to realise that makes you look silly.

Let's call it what it really is and what everyone can see for themselves, an obsession, the original infatuated fan (although you've now been well and truly overtaken by Ken).

Facts 1 to 3 are correct, 4 is only partly correct as it's only a few I don't mind and enjoy making look silly. Other times I let them do it all by themselves#unravel

Can I also add that not only will I never post on the said designated thread but I don't read that thread. Never have never will for reasons previously given. That now infamous thread is clearly about lots of posters on NCM and not just me as your sidekick or former sidekick like to suggest.

I could fire plenty of Rafa Facts back in your direction but people don't want that so will restrict it to just two.

Fact 1 - I proposed multiple times, other posters suggested numerous times for you to simply ignore me and vice versa and you flatly rejected the obvious solution with no genuine reason given. So you are in no position to complain to someone turning down a possible solution.

Fact 2 - And this one is far more pertinent to the whole mess, you complain about my lack of participation in the handbags thread yet do absolutely nothing to try and discourage Larry and Curly from blatantly instigator these so called "petty personal arguments". You even chime in needlessly on non-Notts matters aimed at the same one person to instigate things. Again this severely weakens your standpoint, your complaints and make you again look silly and obsessed#void

You choose to ignore all the instigators, the baiting, the nicknames, the insults, the puerile
stuff wait for me to post or respond and then jump in to complain about ruining a thread.

You moaned so much to teacher that the excellent mod of NCM quit as a result.

And that's where your whole stance falls down comically. Until you realise that almost 'nobody cares' (and let's be honest you've been told enough times) until you let it soak in that people are bored of these non Notts petty personal arguments nothing will change. Or until you finally grow a pair and try and discourage others , or maybe suggest politely that they are out of order or have gone a little far over the line nothing will change.

I hoped Swale's decision to quit as a moderator would encourage everyone to moderate themselves a little more but as you, I and everyone can see that's not been the case.

Sutton..... Ardley.......Petty Personal Arguing.

It doesn't really matter what the starting subject is , 2 or 3 folks can always make sure it ends the same way#sadtimes

[Elite_Pie]

Facts 1 to 3 are correct, 4 is only partly correct as it's only a few I don't mind and enjoy making look silly.

That makes FACT 4 100% correct, not partly correct.

Regarding FACT 2, you still seem to be struggling to understand. I've explained on many occasions in very great detail why I single you out, but the real truth is that the moderator asked us all to do something, but you flatly refused to do as he asked.

What gives you the right to do that?

[laddo]

The reason he 'failed' the third time is because he got the sack, MM. Even me being the generous soul that I am that would still have to mark that down as a failure IMHAHO. Not being trusted or deemed competent enough to be allowed to finish a season is 'failure' in itself. There are always 'mitigating circumstances', for every manager at almost every club in the lower divisions, especially if you are looking for a nice easy excuse.

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

Now that's strange if you are a true Notts fan cos as a club and set of supporters we've had more of those than most.

[countygump]

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

[Elite_Pie]

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

Correct. The fact that we've had many managerial failures doesn't make Ardley's reign acceptable. We all know that laddo instantly ridiculed anyone who said that Ardley wasn't the answer. As UTM suggests, he's never had the guts to say "Yeah you were probably right".

[PedroTheFisherman66]

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

Now that's strange if you are a true Notts fan cos as a club and set of supporters we've had more of those than most.

WTF has this paragraph of tripe got to do with Ardley being good or bad ? two things to confirm how good or bad he was are ,
One - Sol Campbell do I need to explain that anymore ?
Two - IB taking the same squad of players and turning them from a dour defensive stumbling stuttering team into an exciting free flowing football out fit to be feared.
I would love it if any of the Ardley fans who says he's a good manager (still) would like to explain that transformation please.

[bule1]

Laddo/Elite/others, you have a difference of opinion. Nothing one of you says is going to make the other concede that they were right and you were wrong. Please for the sake of this messageboard let it go.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Laddo/Elite/others, you have a difference of opinion. Nothing one of you says is going to make the other concede that they were right and you were wrong. Please for the sake of this messageboard let it go.

I really get confused by people that complain about spats between posters , why don't you just ignore it.
Do you not realise by writing your pleas to stop is highly ridiculous as you become part of the problem you are moaning about.
Just because it makes you think you more righteous than the rest it actually doesn't ,honestly B1 think about it , in the words of Hugh Cornwall (Dionne Warwick) Walk On By
Gotcha !
Chooooo Chooooooo

[51Magpie]

... why don't you just ignore it...

Maybe it's because nearly every thread gets hijacked by a few people who evidently can't stand each other. This board has been immensely improved for me since I put Laddo on my ignore list. If I were to add a couple more names, it would probably get even better. The remaining problem though, would be that if I wished to read what people had to say about Sutton United (the subject of this thread in case you've forgotten) I'd have to sift through four**** pages (and counting) of "This message is hidden because so-and-so is on your ignore list." All because you and a handful of others can't - as bule1 put it - let it go.

By the way, the Cambridge English Dictionary defines "spat" as "a short argument, usually about something that is not important". The key word is short. This bickering and name-calling has been going on for many months now, and nothing changes - not the content, nor the outcome. Do you really think that you're going to get Laddo to change his mind or shut up?

There are some really good posters on here who know their football, are thoughtful, amusing and worth reading. You've written sensible posts yourself. We've already lost our only (long-suffering) moderator because of all the bickering, and the sensible, interesting posts are drowning in a sea of childish nonsense. Please stop.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Maybe it's because nearly every thread gets hijacked by a few people who evidently can't stand each other. This board has been immensely improved for me since I put Laddo on my ignore list. If I were to add a couple more names, it would probably get even better. The remaining problem though, would be that if I wished to read what people had to say about Sutton United (the subject of this thread in case you've forgotten) I'd have to sift through four**** pages (and counting) of "This message is hidden because so-and-so is on your ignore list." All because you and a handful of others can't - as bule1 put it - let it go.

By the way, the Cambridge English Dictionary defines "spat" as "a short argument, usually about something that is not important". The key word is short. This bickering and name-calling has been going on for many months now, and nothing changes - not the content, nor the outcome. Do you really think that you're going to get Laddo to change his mind or shut up?

There are some really good posters on here who know their football, are thoughtful, amusing and worth reading. You've written sensible posts yourself. We've already lost our only (long-suffering) moderator because of all the bickering, and the sensible, interesting posts are drowning in a sea of childish nonsense. Please stop.

Some very valid points there