Sutton Utd

[magpie_mania]

The reason he 'failed' the third time is because he got the sack, MM. Even me being the generous soul that I am that would still have to mark that down as a failure IMHAHO. Not being trusted or deemed competent enough to be allowed to finish a season is 'failure' in itself. There are always 'mitigating circumstances', for every manager at almost every club in the lower divisions, especially if you are looking for a nice easy excuse.

At least you recognise mitigating circumstances, more than some on here!

[upthemaggies]

The reason he 'failed' the third time is because he got the sack, MM. Even me being the generous soul that I am that would still have to mark that down as a failure IMHAHO. Not being trusted or deemed competent enough to be allowed to finish a season is 'failure' in itself. There are always 'mitigating circumstances', for every manager at almost every club in the lower divisions, especially if you are looking for a nice easy excuse.

The expectation was that we would be challenging for 1st place this season. We were nowhere near. I can't recall the interview word for word, but the owners were asked if they'd expected us to be higher and challenging for auto some way into this season and they said that they did and that their stats were telling them that results should improve and that we would climb higher as the season progressed. That they sacked him when we were 6th would confirm that he had not done the job he was kept on to do, yet again. So to say he failed three times is a fact, not an opinion.

What he might have done had he been kept on is entering into a fantasy world where Fullarton could have got us promoted into L1. We can all make up any scenario, good or bad, for any manager that's ever been to justify or otherwise giving them the push, If we're dealing with facts and not opinions then the bottom line is he was sacked because he wasn't good enough to keep us up and wasn't good enough to get us back up despite being given nearly two seasons to do that from the lowest position the club has ever been in.

The most insipid weak minded excuse riddled Notts manager of all time, echoes of which permeate throughout the posts of his fan boys.

[countygump]

The most insipid, weak minded, excuse riddled Notts manager of all time, echoes of which permeate throughout the posts of his fan boys.

Now say what you mean, no reason to pull any punches, UTM.

[bule1]

upthemagpies, do you not remember Colin Murphy

[laddo]

Yes, this thread and many others have been ruined because the mod's advice wasn't heeded, not just by you but mainly by you.
Here are four FACTS. They are not opinions or lies, they are cold, hard FACTS:

FACT 1 - the moderator received complaints from some posters saying threads were being ruined by petty arguments. The moderator decided to set up a specific thread for petty arguments, and asked all those involved to take them there so those who were fed up of them didn't have to read them.

FACT 2 - laddo ignored the moderator and said he would never post on the thread.

FACT 3 - laddo claims he only wants to discuss Notts County and football.

FACT 4 - laddo said he enjoys making other posters look silly.

I'm sure you won't dispute anything there, so read it again and think about it.



Yaaaaawn. I've told you at least a dozen times that the reason I single you out and nobody else is that you claim to be on a 'mission' to improve the board, and nobody else has made that claim. That's why I treat your rank hypocrisy differently to others.

Just what part of that are you still struggling to comprehend?

Alright Rafa Benitez, we get it you like to deal in facts.

Your excuse that you only single me out , impressively demonstrating hypocrisy, inconsistencies and bias all at once, is based purely on my 'mission' which is a bizarre and weak excuse when you openly admit you don't know what the mission is lol. You are a clever enough bloke to realise that makes you look silly.

Let's call it what it really is and what everyone can see for themselves, an obsession, the original infatuated fan (although you've now been well and truly overtaken by Ken).

Facts 1 to 3 are correct, 4 is only partly correct as it's only a few I don't mind and enjoy making look silly. Other times I let them do it all by themselves#unravel

Can I also add that not only will I never post on the said designated thread but I don't read that thread. Never have never will for reasons previously given. That now infamous thread is clearly about lots of posters on NCM and not just me as your sidekick or former sidekick like to suggest.

I could fire plenty of Rafa Facts back in your direction but people don't want that so will restrict it to just two.

Fact 1 - I proposed multiple times, other posters suggested numerous times for you to simply ignore me and vice versa and you flatly rejected the obvious solution with no genuine reason given. So you are in no position to complain to someone turning down a possible solution.

Fact 2 - And this one is far more pertinent to the whole mess, you complain about my lack of participation in the handbags thread yet do absolutely nothing to try and discourage Larry and Curly from blatantly instigator these so called "petty personal arguments". You even chime in needlessly on non-Notts matters aimed at the same one person to instigate things. Again this severely weakens your standpoint, your complaints and make you again look silly and obsessed#void

You choose to ignore all the instigators, the baiting, the nicknames, the insults, the puerile
stuff wait for me to post or respond and then jump in to complain about ruining a thread.

You moaned so much to teacher that the excellent mod of NCM quit as a result.

And that's where your whole stance falls down comically. Until you realise that almost 'nobody cares' (and let's be honest you've been told enough times) until you let it soak in that people are bored of these non Notts petty personal arguments nothing will change. Or until you finally grow a pair and try and discourage others , or maybe suggest politely that they are out of order or have gone a little far over the line nothing will change.

I hoped Swale's decision to quit as a moderator would encourage everyone to moderate themselves a little more but as you, I and everyone can see that's not been the case.

Sutton..... Ardley.......Petty Personal Arguing.

It doesn't really matter what the starting subject is , 2 or 3 folks can always make sure it ends the same way#sadtimes

[laddo]

The reason he 'failed' the third time is because he got the sack, MM. Even me being the generous soul that I am that would still have to mark that down as a failure IMHAHO. Not being trusted or deemed competent enough to be allowed to finish a season is 'failure' in itself. There are always 'mitigating circumstances', for every manager at almost every club in the lower divisions, especially if you are looking for a nice easy excuse.

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

Now that's strange if you are a true Notts fan cos as a club and set of supporters we've had more of those than most.

[bule1]

Laddo/Elite/others, you have a difference of opinion. Nothing one of you says is going to make the other concede that they were right and you were wrong. Please for the sake of this messageboard let it go.

[countygump]

If indeed a manager not being able to finish a season is a "failure in itself" we've had lots and lots of failures / failed managers in the past. The #noagenda crew infatuated by Ardley even when he's gone seem to conveniently forget all these previous failures they speak as if we've not had disappointing seasons, relegation seasons before.

We've had many rubbish managers and disappointing seasons before, but none bar Ardley oversaw a relegation to non league. I just choose to put Ardley in the rubbish failed managers category, others don't. That, in truth is what this whole debate is about.

[magpie_mania]

The expectation was that we would be challenging for 1st place this season. We were nowhere near. I can't recall the interview word for word, but the owners were asked if they'd expected us to be higher and challenging for auto some way into this season and they said that they did and that their stats were telling them that results should improve and that we would climb higher as the season progressed. That they sacked him when we were 6th would confirm that he had not done the job he was kept on to do, yet again. So to say he failed three times is a fact, not an opinion.

What he might have done had he been kept on is entering into a fantasy world where Fullarton could have got us promoted into L1. We can all make up any scenario, good or bad, for any manager that's ever been to justify or otherwise giving them the push, If we're dealing with facts and not opinions then the bottom line is he was sacked because he wasn't good enough to keep us up and wasn't good enough to get us back up despite being given nearly two seasons to do that from the lowest position the club has ever been in.

The most insipid weak minded excuse riddled Notts manager of all time, echoes of which permeate throughout the posts of his fan boys.

It's changed then. I think that most people thought that the target this year was promotion (and most of us said that if we didn't get that, Ardley should be sacked - even those you call pro-Ardley).

That he wasn't good enough to get us promotion this season is not fact, it is an opinion. If he was not sacked, there was a chance we could have been promoted (that is a fact).

He failed twice and was not able to prove whether or not he would have failed three times. That's a fact, not an opinion.

[upthemaggies]

That he wasn't good enough to get us promotion this season is not fact, it is an opinion. If he was not sacked, there was a chance we could have been promoted (that is a fact). .