📝 Tobi Adebayo-Rowling Signs

[CamPie]

For it to be a lottery, you'd expect to see an even spread of winning teams across the positions. Over say 100 years, that may yet turn out to be the case, but as of now, there's a very strong indication that the higher placed teams have the advantage.

5th tier final position and number of play off winners
2nd: 6 3rd: 8 4th: 5 5th: 0 6th: 0 7th: 0

I don't disagree with that, the way the NL play-offs are structured the higher placed teams do have an advantage, so the higher you finish the better your chances. For all leagues though, after 46 games the teams finishing highest would appear to be the strongest and would therefore also be expected to have a better chance - but in any given season, in any given play-off game any team could win it!

[ALBOWLLY]

It tells us that the P/O's are a lottery and given a bit of luck and a half decent performance on the day, it's anyone's to win.

Much better to avoid the play-offs and do it the Lincoln City way. First time in the fifth tier bounce back at the first attempt as Champions. Second time down here fail to finish in the top-half for the first five seasons then appoint the right manager and go up as Champions again in the sixth.
Mind there aren't many Cowley Brothers around and next season would be preferable to 2024-25.

[jackal2]

Appreciate you pointing this out, that I'm not a miserable old git by default.

The double whammy of Notts losing to Grimsby in the way they did and Fword going up has sent me into a tailspin.

Just for the record I was bitterly disappointed too, particularly about Notts, but not anywhere near to the point of giving up hope. I've felt far worse about our future prospects in the past.

I think we've seen a couple of new signings in the past couple of days alone that give plenty of cause for optimism, similar to the recruitment of Cal Roberts. We're signing young(ish) up-and-coming players who probably have their best years ahead of them and will be full of ambition, on wages we can presumably afford.

I can accept that any club's ownership, management model and philosophy (if they have one) will never be universally popular with all fans, and message boards like this will always be a forum for those who aren't convinced, but surely if you're going to criticise or even dismiss the current approach then the next step is to set out what you want to change, otherwise it's all a bit meaningless.

What's your vision of the right model or approach? What needs to change, and how? Playing style? Recruitment? Type of manager? The owners? We know what some posters are against, but what are they agitating for?

As I've said before, I'm happy with the owners and broadly happy with the overall set-up of the club. I think there are greater levels of professionalism throughout the club today than we saw in the past. My only criticism is that, on the pitch, we dropped some stupid points away from home and looked too much of a soft touch too often, but that can be addressed by adding the right type of steely players to what we already have, and adopting a slightly more pragmatic style of play without abandoning the idea of an attractive football philosophy. That's my constructive criticism. What do others want to see change?

[PTID1862]

Just for the record I was bitterly disappointed too, particularly about Notts, but not anywhere near to the point of giving up hope. I've felt far worse about our future prospects in the past.

I think we've seen a couple of new signings in the past couple of days alone that give plenty of cause for optimism, similar to the recruitment of Cal Roberts. We're signing young(ish) up-and-coming players who probably have their best years ahead of them and will be full of ambition, on wages we can presumably afford.

I can accept that any club's ownership, management model and philosophy (if they have one) will never be universally popular with all fans, and message boards like this will always be a forum for those who aren't convinced, but surely if you're going to criticise or even dismiss the current approach then the next step is to set out what you want to change, otherwise it's all a bit meaningless.

What's your vision of the right model or approach? What needs to change, and how? Playing style? Recruitment? Type of manager? The owners? We know what some posters are against, but what are they agitating for?

As I've said before, I'm happy with the owners and broadly happy with the overall set-up of the club. I think there are greater levels of professionalism throughout the club today than we saw in the past. My only criticism is that, on the pitch, we dropped some stupid points away from home and looked too much of a soft touch too often, but that can be addressed by adding the right type of steely players to what we already have, and adopting a slightly more pragmatic style of play without abandoning the idea of an attractive football philosophy. That's my constructive criticism. What do others want to see change?

Pretty much sums up where I am, I have seen us completely control games, and in fact the Carlisle fella I was with at home to Eastleigh was bored because it was so one sided, but also I think a tad too slow. We can fix that without a change in philosophy too, quicker tempo from back to front, instead of just the final third. We do need to have a spine, by that I mean a beast at the back, a box to box battler in midfield, and a target man who is also a handful... give me those and I think we are pretty much done. Unless we need to replace Chicksen.

More than happy with owners, the way it is run, especially happy we don't have twitter/ forum posting owners. The whole club seems to be benefitting from the way things are... and yes I am almost always glass 3/4 full... apart from Grimsby, where I didn't feel we could get over the line, something just wasn't right.

[Elite_Pie]

What's your vision of the right model or approach? What needs to change, and how? Playing style? Recruitment? Type of manager? The owners? We know what some posters are against, but what are they agitating for?

In my case promotion, simple as that. I'm not clever enough to formulate a detailed plan as to how to make it happen, but promotion is pretty much all I want. I'm not asking for the Championship or even League 1, just for us not to be a non-league club.

[jackal2]

In my case promotion, simple as that. I'm not clever enough to formulate a detailed plan as to how to make it happen, but promotion is pretty much all I want. I'm not asking for the Championship or even League 1, just for us not to be a non-league club.

We all want that!

It's the route to it that's tricky to plot, but I think that's the case for all of the 'contenders' in the National League, including the Hollywood megastars. If the Reedtz brothers took us to promotion ahead of them I'd rather enjoy it, but that's a big ask.

[Old_pie]

In my case promotion, simple as that. I'm not clever enough to formulate a detailed plan as to how to make it happen, but promotion is pretty much all I want. I'm not asking for the Championship or even League 1, just for us not to be a non-league club.

We were not a non-league club, in fact a couple of tiers higher, when too many could not stand Keith Curle's approach in particular to home games.

What price now for those heady days?

[Elite_Pie]

We were not a non-league club, in fact a couple of tiers higher, when too many could not stand Keith Curle's approach in particular to home games.

What price now for those heady days?

I'd take it in a heartbeat.

[jacobncfc]

In my case promotion, simple as that. I'm not clever enough to formulate a detailed plan as to how to make it happen, but promotion is pretty much all I want. I'm not asking for the Championship or even League 1, just for us not to be a non-league club.

But that’s the issue ain’t it. You can do basically everything right, have a perfect plan and still not get promoted, because that’s how football works.

[upthemaggies]

But that’s the issue ain’t it. You can do basically everything right, have a perfect plan and still not get promoted, because that’s how football works.

I hope this new head coach is of the mind-set of doing whatever it takes to get promoted rather than trying to do everything right.