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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM1971 View Post
    In the past Dundee United were noted for playing open, attacking, exciting football. It helped to turn the tables on the Fun having a bigger support. Wee Jim worked absolute wonders. United gained supporters from Angus, Fife and beyond, which they would never have had without the attractive style of football they played. We all want results, the right results, but if they are not accompanied by attractive football, we will suffer in the long run. Newbie supporters are not going to follow a team that is playing crap football, no matter how many games they grind out wins.

    Leicester City won the EPL a few seasons back playing awful to watch football. Apart from a few games they were always in the negative in terms of possession, shots on goal etc. Do you think their fans cared?

    We'd all love to see pretty football but it rarely wins you trophies look at Spurs (my team by the way). Chelsea too won the EPL last season playing a tedious counter attacking style of football... again.... do you think their fans care?

    Even though it ain't good on the eye I feel we are still beating our opponents at home because we are better than them, it's our away form that's worrying and could be Ray's downfall rather than his style of play. Still early days yet though, we have the players to entertain and it might just click given time but I'd rather win the league ugly than finish in the play offs Spursesque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutherland Arab View Post
    Personally while I'd prefer results over performances there is no doubt we should be dictating games against most if not all the other sides in this league. The excuses are wearing thin, he set us to fail against St Mirren playing it down and saying we're not fully sharp. We have a side that is capable of winning this league at a canter and it's about time they showed this.
    Over the past few years our side has not been able to handle any adversity, that has to change and McKinnon could show some passion instead of appearing all pally with his players. The future of our club is at stake after all.
    Starting with Dumbarton on Saturday, I want to see us play at a fast tempo and dominate the game, we are due one over them but I won't be holding my breath.
    If after the two away games against Falkirk and Dunfermline we have been bullied and outfought McKinnon should go.

    This pretty much sums up how Im feeling.....I hoped that Ray would come in and shake the place up as it badly needs it, but it seems that whilts he talks a good game and has attracted some good players in he seems daunted by the task.

    100% hope he gets them to kick it up a couple of notches - surely to god he wants a higher tempo. A couple of closed door games required where he can get this sorted away from public glare and where he can drill them(would be how I would address it).

    Otherwise I fear the jobs too big for Ray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Results don't matter, it's all about the performance.
    Hold on Terry...If we were playing well every week & somehow losing I don't think there would be much sympathy.
    That's putting it mildly.
    My favourite truism in football is 'You are only as good as your last game'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Results don't matter, it's all about the performance.
    They go hand in hand, that run we were on last season was just luck, sheer luck IMO as we were coming away from wins saying, how the f uck did we manage that, f ucking awful performances. Then we stopped winning still playing extremely poorly and what happened, Hibs ran away with it and we struggled to get 3rd place. Start playing well and we will go on and win this league, but if we continue like this as we did last season, we wont win this league!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Results don't matter, it's all about the performance.
    Play rubbish and we need a last minute goal to beat Brechin. Play rubbish and we get done 3 nil by St Mirren. Play rubbish and only win V Alloa after 3 changes!

    Play well in all these games and the morgue awakens, we are still top of the league and the fans who bothered to go are treated to a bonus win!

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    We'd only be top of the league of results were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chick A Saw View Post
    we are still top of the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    My point was not where we are now, but where we might have been had the team actually performed!

    I have my doubts for this weekend, but we are looking for a few favours already so we dont get cast adrift from those above!

    Cmon guys, prove me wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmedDUm View Post
    For a place that's suffered one defeat in 32 games Tannadice ain't exactly buzzing, is it?

    Please check my stat, I think I saw 32 somewhere.
    nae wonder the product on display has been absolutely dreadful, yes we've came away with wins but deary me, how bad have we been. No wonder the place isnt 'buzzing'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    Leicester City won the EPL a few seasons back playing awful to watch football. Apart from a few games they were always in the negative in terms of possession, shots on goal etc. Do you think their fans cared?

    We'd all love to see pretty football but it rarely wins you trophies look at Spurs (my team by the way). Chelsea too won the EPL last season playing a tedious counter attacking style of football... again.... do you think their fans care?

    Even though it ain't good on the eye I feel we are still beating our opponents at home because we are better than them, it's our away form that's worrying and could be Ray's downfall rather than his style of play. Still early days yet though, we have the players to entertain and it might just click given time but I'd rather win the league ugly than finish in the play offs Spursesque.
    If we were to win this league playing as we have been then I'd agree that not too many of our fans would care.
    The problem is that as we continue to struggle in virtually every game then more and more fans are beginning to doubt that it has any chance of happening.
    And has also been said we'd be right back down again.

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