THE Ardley In/Out Thread [Multiple threads merged]

[countygump]

Thinking about it - When could the owners have sacked Ardley? He's always just done enough and put a few results on the board whenever the heat has been turned up on social media. They didn't have time to replace him at the start of last season and even though narrowly missing out on promotion often results in a terrible hangover and, in our case at least, relegation battles the following term, it never looks good sacking a manager who's just got you to a play-off final.

We may have got carried away with this idea that they aren't the sacking type. Compared to Trew and Hardy, any chairman is going to look as though they have the patience of a Zen Buddhist.

This is true. One of the main reasons Hardly kept his job was down to circumstance.

[Davy500]

[QUOTE=laddo;39584030]

We were heading for relegation all that season from start to end. It was a complete disaster from the first game to the last. Blame Hardy


No lado blame Ardley,
i believe we were out of the bottom 2 when he arrived, so relegation was no means certain at that point, after winning one of his first 12 matches, and cutting us 8 points a drift by january it looked like we were heading for relegation

[ncfcog]

[QUOTE=Davy500;39591038]

We were heading for relegation all that season from start to end. It was a complete disaster from the first game to the last. Blame Hardy


No lado blame Ardley,
i believe we were out of the bottom 2 when he arrived, so relegation was no means certain at that point, after winning one of his first 12 matches, and cutting us 8 points a drift by january it looked like we were heading for relegation

When he took charge of his first league game Notts we’re 23rd and remained in the bottom two for the rest of the season.

[Elite_Pie]

When he took charge of his first league game Notts we’re 23rd and remained in the bottom two for the rest of the season.

So laddo was right, Ardley gave us the stability he craved!

[Rez1862]

Morning Laddo.

Of course its the owners' decision - I'm giving my opinion on an 'Ardley out' thread citing the parachute payments as a factor surrounding whether he should stay or not.

Re the relegation season, yes - Hardy has to take the large portion of the blame but do you think Ardley had the players motivated or working in a tactical system that should have, at the very least, seen us finish above Macclesfield and Yeovil?

You are correct that very few Notts fans would have predicted a promotion but given the backing that Ardley had, the style of football was dire and when it came to the big occasions, we just didn't turn up. I'm glad you accept mediocrity.

As for who I want as the next Notts manager, I don't know our budget or who is available but I'm sure we could get someone who could get more from the players than Ardley.

[laddo]

Anyone who describes last season as a shambles can't be taken seriously IMO. I know many on here like the melodrama but that's an absurd comment.

The one connection between all those individuals that liked to hire and fire so regularly is Notts County FC. I fear until we got the sensible Danes to save the day it was ingrained in the club whoever was in charge. It had sadly become the norm to supporters, its what we are used to, think is the standard and expect.

[LaxtonLad]

Anyone who describes last season as a shambles can't be taken seriously IMO. I know many on here like the melodrama but that's an absurd comment.

The one connection between all those individuals that liked to hire and fire so regularly is Notts County FC. I fear until we got the sensible Danes to save the day it was ingrained in the club whoever was in charge. It had sadly become the norm to supporters, its what we are used to, think is the standard and expect.

To start the season as championship favourites and then struggle for three-quarters of the season, losing to many also-rans and performing like a pub team in a play-off game looks like a shambles to me. If it wasn't such a shambles there would not be as much barracking and calling for Ardley's head then and now from the vox populi would there? He wasn't popular choice to begin with, fans didn't want him and we now know why.

[countygump]

To start the season as championship favourites and then struggle for three-quarters of the season, losing to many also-rans and performing like a pub team in a play-off game looks like a shambles to me. If it wasn't such a shambles there would not be as much barracking and calling for Ardley's head then and now from the vox populi would there? He wasn't popular choice to begin with, fans didn't want him and we now know why.

A lot of us, at the time Ardley was appointed didn't want him as we thought he wasn't the ideal candidate for a 'relegation scrap'. No other reason. We didn't think a recently sacked man who had spent 10 years or so as a player for Wimbledon and 6 ish as manager and was sacked because they were in a relegation scrap themselves, would be the ideal 'fit' for us. Of course, you hope for the best and that somehow the new man will scratch enough points together to get us safe, but truth is, apart from a few fleeting moments, we never really looked like avoiding relegation.

[upthemaggies]

A lot of us, at the time Ardley was appointed didn't want him as we thought he wasn't the ideal candidate for a 'relegation scrap'. No other reason. We didn't think a recently sacked man who had spent 10 years or so as a player for Wimbledon and 6 ish as manager and was sacked because they were in a relegation scrap themselves, would be the ideal 'fit' for us. Of course, you hope for the best and that somehow the new man will scratch enough points together to get us safe, but truth is, apart from a few fleeting moments, we never really looked like avoiding relegation.

In future, we should always be suspicious of managers who have only managed one club that just happens to be the club they played for and got the job for that sole reason.

I can't say I detected much of a push back to his name being suggested at the time we were looking, but there was concern - which I very much agreed with - that he didn't seem all that up for the job. I can't remember hearing of any other manager who didn't want to cut short his holiday and not get stuck in straight away with a club that is in great need. That should have been enough to convince Hardy to look elsewhere.

[countygump]

In future, we should always be suspicious of managers who have only managed one club that just happens to be the club they played for and got the job for that sole reason.

I can't say I detected much of a push back to his name being suggested at the time we were looking, but there was concern - which I very much agreed with - that he didn't seem all that up for the job. I can't remember hearing of any other manager who didn't want to cut short his holiday and not get stuck in straight away with a club that is in great need. That should have been enough to convince Hardy to look elsewhere.

No there wasn't that much of a 'push back', as you say UTM.

Perhaps I should have said, ''Some of us had reservations'' rather than, ''A lot of us, at the time Ardley was appointed didn't want him as we thought''.... TBF.

Not the 'reservations' that were forced upon Native Americans in the 1700's either.

Or 'reservations' at the Crossroads Motel either.