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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    The fact you were concerned before a ball was kicked means you should at least understand that there are some of us who are now concerned about our current form. Whichever way you spin it we have won only 2 of our last 16 games which is a massive drop off from early season form,we still cannot kill teams off and our strikers have been rank rotten.
    I was concerned over Christmas as well. Those concerns have eased massively now, and in hindsight, the injuries look like they played a far bigger part than I thought at the time. Tam's big test, and I said this from day one, was coming through his first sticky spell as Utd manager and he's done it imo. Granted the performances haven't been as good as we'd like, but to go from 8 defeats in 10 to now only 2 defeats in 11 is a major upturn. Our recent form has us 6th in the form table. Unfortunately some fans don't seem to be able to get passed the poor form at Christmas (some don't seem to be able to get passed the fact he was appointed in the first place) and have it in for the manager regardless. He seems to always be only one defeat or poor performance away from having it all thrown back in his face. Most folk had us down or in the playoffs at the start of the season. Early March and we're already safe with 36 points. Let's see where we end up. We're still in with a chance of top 6 and have a quarter final to look forward to, albeit its the worst tie we could've possibly drawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    I was concerned over Christmas as well. Those concerns have eased massively now, and in hindsight, the injuries look like they played a far bigger part than I thought at the time. Tam's big test, and I said this from day one, was coming through his first sticky spell as Utd manager and he's done it imo. Granted the performances haven't been as good as we'd like, but to go from 8 defeats in 10 to now only 2 defeats in 11 is a major upturn. Our recent form has us 6th in the form table. Unfortunately some fans don't seem to be able to get passed the poor form at Christmas (some don't seem to be able to get passed the fact he was appointed in the first place) and have it in for the manager regardless. He seems to always be only one defeat or poor performance away from having it all thrown back in his face. Most folk had us down or in the playoffs at the start of the season. Early March and we're already safe with 36 points. Let's see where we end up. We're still in with a chance of top 6 and have a quarter final to look forward to, albeit its the worst tie we could've possibly drawn.
    I was one of the more optimistic ones when he was appointed but of course I remember the general theme at the time. It's interesting that you're happy to use the 2 defeats in 11 stat but not the 2 wins in 16 though. I don't really call that a major upturn if I'm being honest, and performances have been very poor when playing the teams you'd expect us to have more chance of beating. We turned up v the Hun and second half yesterday but were ****ing abysmal against the bottom 2 teams and again against Livi. Throw in the St Mirren game too and we were damn lucky to beat County. I genuinely don't think Tam is going to take us to the next level but I absolutely hope to be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    It was important we didn't lose any of those games, I think that was the main point being made.
    Both teams beat Hearts right after we played them, to compare current form and using the losing run from pre new year in it to add to it is/was not fair at all, there is big a difference since we returned in January after the injuries and covid cleared up and no more tools away Fuchs in the line up

    No one if saying its been great form but its been steady, especially at the back for the most part, we've almost emerged with a new defence from earlier in the season with Graham doing well, Butch at CB, McMann being out at times, Freeman being out at times etc, think we have adapted fairly well, even recently with setbacks losing Levitt at Pittodrie was a blow for the rest of the game and at livi, losing watt at livi was a blow in that game and for yesterday, Mulgrew being out too

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Both teams beat Hearts right after we played them, to compare current form and using the losing run from pre new year in it to add to it is/was not fair at all, there is big a difference since we returned in January after the injuries and covid cleared up and no more tools away Fuchs in the line up

    No one if saying its been great form but its been steady, especially at the back for the most part, we've almost emerged with a new defence from earlier in the season with Graham doing well, Butch at CB, McMann being out at times, Freeman being out at times etc, think we have adapted fairly well, even recently with setbacks losing Levitt at Pittodrie was a blow for the rest of the game and at livi, losing watt at livi was a blow in that game and for yesterday, Mulgrew being out too
    I reckon Boris Johnson would give you a job as his spin doctor, **** you'd probably be able to convince me to vote tory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    I was one of the more optimistic ones when he was appointed but of course I remember the general theme at the time. It's interesting that you're happy to use the 2 defeats in 11 stat but not the 2 wins in 16 though. I don't really call that a major upturn if I'm being honest, and performances have been very poor when playing the teams you'd expect us to have more chance of beating. We turned up v the Hun and second half yesterday but were ****ing abysmal against the bottom 2 teams and again against Livi. Throw in the St Mirren game too and we were damn lucky to beat County. I genuinely don't think Tam is going to take us to the next level but I absolutely hope to be wrong.

    St Mirren game we should have won, if we took our chances we would have, guilt edged ones, talk of how poor that night was, was overstated due to the sun we were on and we were denied a stonewaller too

    And yes there is no way of knowing that he needs 2-3 seasons or we will never know, imo he can, I've seen enough about how well he sets is up against the old firm (Celtic at home apart) and sick to a gameplan and execute it, even with kids or injuries to tell me he had something about him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    I was one of the more optimistic ones when he was appointed but of course I remember the general theme at the time. It's interesting that you're happy to use the 2 defeats in 11 stat but not the 2 wins in 16 though. I don't really call that a major upturn if I'm being honest, and performances have been very poor when playing the teams you'd expect us to have more chance of beating. We turned up v the Hun and second half yesterday but were ****ing abysmal against the bottom 2 teams and again against Livi. Throw in the St Mirren game too and we were damn lucky to beat County. I genuinely don't think Tam is going to take us to the next level but I absolutely hope to be wrong.
    The only reason I'm using 2 defeats in 11 is to counter balance your unfair 'form guide' of 2 wins in 16. If you look back through this, and other threads, I use the last 5 games as a form guide. Hence why I said to AJ the other day our current form would have us finish 5th and yesterday I said we are now 6th in the form table. We've picked up double the amount of points over the last 10 games compared to the previous 10. I'd say that's an upturn. Especially when the last 6 games prior to us turning this around all ended in defeat.
    Last edited by tHeArAb; 07-03-2022 at 05:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    The only reason I'm using 2 defeats in 11 is to counter balance your unfair 'form guide' of 2 wins in 16. If you look back through this, and other threads, I use the last 5 games as a form guide. Hence why I said to AJ the other day our current form would have us finish 5th and yesterday I said we are now 6th in the form table. We've picked up double the amount of points over the last 10 games compared to the previous 10. I'd say that's an upturn. Especially when the last 6 games prior to us turning this around all ended in defeat.
    OK if that's how you see it, no problem. Personally I think for the most part our performances have been soul destroying. The major problem is obviously that we are utterly shyte in the final third and despite signing Watt we kept McNulty when he should have been back at Reading allowing us to try a different option. If this had happened we would be sitting a comfortable 4th in my opinion.

    I'll also add that I was not happy about signing a kid from Arsenal that's never played a first team game, he's barely touched the grass (or plastic) since he arrived over a month ago, another wage that could have helped imo.
    Last edited by Arabdownsouth; 07-03-2022 at 06:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabdownsouth View Post
    I reckon Boris Johnson would give you a job as his spin doctor, **** you'd probably be able to convince me to vote tory!

    Reality, not spin

    If you haven't witnessed the difference from the losing run, that's understandable but maybe look at a results website to assist

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Reality, not spin

    If you haven't witnessed the difference from the losing run, that's understandable but maybe look at a results website to assist
    Oh here we go with the superfan shyte. Just because I've not been at every game due to location does not mean I haven't seen the games. I've been a United fan for over 40 years so don't be giving me your nonsense OK fella. I know the difference between a good team and a shyte one trust me. You need to step away from the keyboard yourself and maybe try to understand that not everyone needs to share your opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by shedka View Post
    Reality, not spin

    If you haven't witnessed the difference from the losing run, that's understandable but maybe look at a results website to assist
    Btw, also try to learn what banter is, might stand you in good stead too.

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