OT Cummings Press Statement

[Trickytreesreds]

RA it's looking more like no deal by the day Even Andrew Bailey the governor of the bank of England told all the banks to prepare for a no deal last week As if we don't have enough problems in the country I think this could really sink us if it happens

It could do, or we could just pay towards the 2 trillion corona bailout they need.
Why do folks always look at it, as worst case scenario for us?
Oh hang on a minute, this thread is about Cummings isn't it.

[Manofpride]

No deal isn't all bad even though the BBC will say different!!

[mistaram]

No deal isn't all bad even though the BBC will say different!!

Not just BBC anyone with a brain or anyone in business will tell you it will be disastrous Don't forget the Muppet in charge promised we wouldn't have one

[ramAnag]

Not just BBC anyone with a brain or anyone in business will tell you it will be disastrous Don't forget the Muppet in charge promised we wouldn't have one

Completely agree, mista...but then you’re one of the few on here who actually is ‘in business’.

The Dec 31st deadline was always considered too short a time frame by many experts.
With most European governments being ‘consumed’ by the pandemic since February, and even our own catching on by mid March, and with no end - i.e. widely available and effective vaccine - imminently in sight, it seems insane to me to believe that the Brexit negotiations are likely to be anything other than a hurried and very damaging muddle.
As for potential replacement trade deals with the USA...it seems they might be more than a little sidetracked by ongoing events too.

Almost as bad timing as one of Cummings’ ‘road trips’.

[mistaram]

It could do, or we could just pay towards the 2 trillion corona bailout they need.
Why do folks always look at it, as worst case scenario for us?
Oh hang on a minute, this thread is about Cummings isn't it.

So who is going to pay for our bailout One thing is certain it won't be Cummings or Johnson will it

[Trickytreesreds]

So who is going to pay for our bailout One thing is certain it won't be Cummings or Johnson will it

Of course not. We will.
But do you think it will be a good idea to piss money up the wall, bailing out 20+ countries that will never pay it back?
O'yearh, that's sound economic policy.
They have already tried to fleece us out of an extra 250 odd million. We sign that extension and kiss your recovery good bye.
They need that deal more than us. They are on their arse.
If you think Barnier is in the driving seat, then Rooney must have the head of hair of a sloth in your eyes mucker.

[Ram59]

Negotiations will go down to the last minute, but there is no last minute.

If the deal isn't done in time for Jan 1st, it could another 3,6,9 months or more. There's no rule saying that the deal has to be done this year or never.

What does no deal mean anyway? It means that an average of around 5% will be added to the cost of uk goods in the EU, but our goods are already 10% cheaper than 2016 because of the devaluation of the pound. It means that EU goods will be more expensive here, maybe people will buy British more. The government will gain more income through these tariffs, which because we're not subject to EU rules, can be used to subsidise British companies exporting to the EU.

Much is made of the seamless supplies we get from the EU and how this will fall apart. This will be overcome by planning, we currently get supplies from all over the world without any problems and they take weeks to be shipped here.

This is typical of the scaremongering crap we constantly get through the media. Take this weekend for example, we told that the R number has gone above 1 in the North West and we've got to close everything down.

Let's take a balanced look at the facts, ONE agency out of TEN has estimated the R to be 1.01 in the North West. Have you ever seen the R figure estimated to an accuracy of 0.01 before? Anyway, are we ignoring the other 9 agencies who say that it is lower than 1?

[Trickytreesreds]

Negotiations will go down to the last minute, but there is no last minute.

If the deal isn't done in time for Jan 1st, it could another 3,6,9 months or more. There's no rule saying that the deal has to be done this year or never.

What does no deal mean anyway? It means that an average of around 5% will be added to the cost of uk goods in the EU, but our goods are already 10% cheaper than 2016 because of the devaluation of the pound. It means that EU goods will be more expensive here, maybe people will buy British more. The government will gain more income through these tariffs, which because we're not subject to EU rules, can be used to subsidise British companies exporting to the EU.

Much is made of the seamless supplies we get from the EU and how this will fall apart. This will be overcome by planning, we currently get supplies from all over the world without any problems and they take weeks to be shipped here.

This is typical of the scaremongering crap we constantly get through the media. Take this weekend for example, we told that the R number has gone above 1 in the North West and we've got to close everything down.

Let's take a balanced look at the facts, ONE agency out of TEN has estimated the R to be 1.01 in the North West. Have you ever seen the R figure estimated to an accuracy of 0.01 before? Anyway, are we ignoring the other 9 agencies who say that it is lower than 1?

It's just hot air scare mongering again.
Switzerland isn't in the EU. Yet it exports five times more per capita to the EU than the UK.
America, Canada, Autralia all managed to increase their exports to the EU without giving an inch, to the demands the EU is trying to con us into.
There are no tariffs on Iceland and Turkey. They are extremes in geography.
The lying and posturing never stops.

[ramAnag]

This is typical of the scaremongering crap we constantly get through the media. Take this weekend for example, we told that the R number has gone above 1 in the North West and we've got to close everything down.

Have to agree with much of that, Ram. The media repeatedly exaggerate, while politicians lie - typified unfortunately by the PM and his chief aide - and the result is that the public no longer have a clue about matters from Brexit to the need for social distancing to the truth about the ‘R’ number and testing.

Truth and trust have been sacrificed on the altar of expediency.

I’m sure scientists hold the answers as far as the pandemic is concerned, but it is interesting that more and more of them seem to be distancing themselves from the ‘daily briefing’.

[mistaram]

Didn't Boris work with Cummings' missus at, was it, the Spectator? I wonder how much dirt she has on him?

Yes you are right MA in fact at one time all three worked together .