Solihull Appoint Ardley

[Davy500]

If memory serves me right when Ardley walked in after Nolan, Kewell and Chettle, we had played 20 odd league games, had won 3 (all Kewell) , we had won 9 by then end of the season, I think anyone can deduce even if Ardley could have done better most of the damage was already done or do we just ignore the facts?

How can most of the damage be done- when we were 7 points above Macclesfield when Ardley came in ?? Not only that Notts players and manager were getting PAID, where macclesfields were not

Ardley first 12 games was his downfall, in that period he ended up 8 points from safety, and lost the key match to Macclesfield

It is true, when he was allowed to bring in many of his own players in January he improved, but not enough to keep us up.

[Davy500]

How can most of the damage be done- when we were 7 points above Macclesfield when Ardley came in ?? Not only that Notts players and manager were getting PAID, where macclesfields were not

Ardley first 12 games was his downfall, in that period he ended up 8 points from safety, and lost the key match to Macclesfield

It is true, when he was allowed to bring in many of his own players in January he improved, but not enough to keep us up.

I am fed up with people talking about how great Ardley was
I glad he has gone, all be it 2 years later than he should have, he relegated our club, and blew 2 seasons in this league, he was getting worse not better
Personally he probably be better suited at Solihull, where the expectation for him to do well will be far less than at a club like Notts, but apart from when Solihull play Notts, i could not give a rats arce about how Ardley gets on, good riddance

[upthemaggies]

These stats show that whilst he tightened up the defence that season, he brought our goal scoring ratio down.

28th November 2018 (day Ardley was appointed)
Goals per game: 1.10 (17th best in the league)
Goals against: 2.05 (worst in the league)

4th May 2019 (day we were relegated)
Goals per game: 1.04 (20th best in the league)
Goals against: 1.83 (worst in the league)

Ardley games only 2018/19
Goals per game: 1.00
Goals against: 1.65

[SwalePie]

I am fed up with people talking about how great Ardley was
I glad he has gone, all be it 2 years later than he should have, he relegated our club, and blew 2 seasons in this league, he was getting worse not better
Personally he probably be better suited at Solihull, where the expectation for him to do well will be far less than at a club like Notts, but apart from when Solihull play Notts, i could not give a rats arce about how Ardley gets on, good riddance

Thanks for clearing that up for us. I suspect many of us were wondering where you stood on this issue

[Killerkline]

There was a rumour at the time that, that was his preferred option, as it would have realised him more money. You're right, Hardy must take some of the blame, if only for allowing his heart to rule his head and rush headlong into a bid to get promo, without a sniff of a plan, (other than throwing every penny he had into it), in place. IMO it would be fair to apportion the blame.

Hardy 2%.

Ardley 98%.

How does that sound?

In my opinion, incredibly harsh on NA. But, that’s your opinion which I respect and you acknowledge that Hardy does share, albeit small, some of the blame.

[laddo]

There was a rumour at the time that, that was his preferred option, as it would have realised him more money. You're right, Hardy must take some of the blame, if only for allowing his heart to rule his head and rush headlong into a bid to get promo, without a sniff of a plan, (other than throwing every penny he had into it), in place. IMO it would be fair to apportion the blame.

Hardy 2%.

Ardley 98%.

How does that sound?

A little better than

Hardy 0%

Ardley 100%

Which as Elite said earlier "isn't talking sense" and I am in total agreement, 100%! Davy isn't talking sense as highlighted by KK and myself.

[upthemaggies]

I remember breaking it down into percentages of blame way back when and I had Ardley less than 50% to blame, but he was still more to blame than anybody else. Hardy obviously 2nd biggest factor but Nolan, the players, the coaching staff and even the fans expectations played a part in what led to Ardley failing to turn it around.

We probably wouldn't have gone down however if we'd stuck with Nolan or Kewell. The players liked Nolan, so would have played for him enough to get the necessary points, Kewell left having taken us out of the drop zone. So that's why I focus on Ardley so much because he was the small margin of error that made the difference between finishing 21st or a few places higher.

[countygump]

I remember breaking it down into percentages of blame way back when and I had Ardley less than 50% to blame, but he was still more to blame than anybody else. Hardy obviously 2nd biggest factor but Nolan, the players, the coaching staff and even the fans expectations played a part in what led to Ardley failing to turn it around.

We probably wouldn't have gone down however if we'd stuck with Nolan or Kewell. The players liked Nolan, so would have played for him enough to get the necessary points, Kewell left having taken us out of the drop zone. So that's why I focus on Ardley so much because he was the small margin of error that made the difference between finishing 21st or a few places higher.

If you reverse what happened and imagine Ardley had succeeded in steering Notts away from relegation, I would imagine he would have gotten the lion's share of the credit for it. So, the opposite must surely apply?

[upthemaggies]

If you reverse what happened and imagine Ardley had succeeded in steering Notts away from relegation, I would imagine he would have gotten the lion's share of the credit for it. So, the opposite must surely apply?

We wouldn't have been praising Hardy, that's for sure, or most of the players. It was all riding on Kewell, initially, to sort it out and once the job in hand had been withdrawn from him, it was down to Ardley to make the difference and he failed to deliver.

If the new owners and the fans had been told that we wouldn't go up with Ardley in 2019/20 and that we would never climb higher than 3rd with him in charge in the best part of two seasons, and that by the end of March 2021 even getting into the play offs was in the balance, I'm pretty sure nobody would have been up for keeping him on once the Reetz btos had got things under control.

Other clubs have looked on and seen what he's done here, that's why he's ended up at a club that virtually nobody had heard of until a few years ago and didn't even exist until 2006. Maybe he has learnt something from his time at Notts how not do things and wil be a success there, but that's absolutely no good to Notts County.

[laddo]

That's right Gump he would have. Praise in spite of Hardy's actions that season.

However if you are judging the season as a whole, as we should then, I believe we started the season as title favourites, if not second most likely to win the league. We ended 23rd and relegated, and NA came in with Notts in 23rd in late November and in the relegation zone. So your gotta be looking at a lot more than 2%. Ya get me?