O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[WanChaiMiller]

Very true, which is exactly why your initial argument makes no sense. You said:

Brexit, we are continually told, will be good for the country. MPs are therefore tasked with delivering exactly that.

Given that you now to appear to accept that we were also continuously told it would be bad for the country, how does your position hold water?

You can stop digging any time you want, WanChai.

Oh my word. Desparate or what.

[KerrAvon]

Desperate for what?

If you make wholly one sided and logically flawed arguments, you can't expect not to be picked up on them. Getting all waspish about it doesn't help your cause at all.

[WanChaiMiller]

Desperate for what?

If you make wholly one sided and logically flawed arguments, you can't expect not to be picked up on them. Getting all waspish about it doesn't help your cause at all.

Still laughing. How long do you want to go on for? Another 50 posts?

[KerrAvon]

I'm sorry for upsetting you. I always thought that you were able to handle debate.

[WanChaiMiller]

I'm sorry for upsetting you. I always thought that you were able to handle debate.

Youve not upset me. Im laughing at you.

[KerrAvon]

As I said, I'm sorry that I have upset you.

[Timbertop]

Miller Bill. Had a similar experience visiting my son-in-law 's family in central Spain where youth unemployment is around 55% I was told. And the common denominator in all this? The stinkingly capitalist EU !

[ragingpup]

Miller Bill. Had a similar experience visiting my son-in-law 's family in central Spain where youth unemployment is around 55% I was told. And the common denominator in all this? The stinkingly capitalist EU !

Bill and MT – I’m not challenging you on this as such. And I’m sure that you’ll be pleased to know that I am not renowned for my sympathy to “stinking capitalism”. But what is the process that the EU imposes on these countries, what legislation or laws are imposed by the EU, that cause these shocking statistics?

I always thought that the government of a country was responsible for its positive or negative economic and social conditions. How is the EU superimposing over and above the Italian and Spanish governments to cause these outcomes?

[WanChaiMiller]

My vision of Brexit is to have our own rules, not be dictated to.Having recently been to Italy and spoken to some under 25s and their horrendous ordeal in finding work out there,they have a completely different opinion of the EU.They cannot understand why the younger generation in this country are not looking at the real facts where the Eurozone countries just turn a blind eye to these shocking youth unemployment figures.It is beyond belief how any sensible person would want this horrible prospect for their children.

Millerbill. You put this question to me before some months back. That time we were discussing Spain. In my reply I said "I can see Spain youth unemployment was 18% in the period up to 2007. This was just above the EU average. The dramatic rise was in 5 years after the credit crunch recession of 2008. By 2013 it had risen to 50%, over double the EU average.

I see that as being a result of the recession rather than Spain being part of the EU. My question is why the recession hit the youth of Spain in particular & so serverely? I wonder why you think its all down to their membership of the EU?* Why do you think the youth of Spain would have faired better if Spain was an independent country?"

[Exiletyke]

Millerbill. You put this question to me before some months back. That time we were discussing Spain. In my reply I said "I can see Spain youth unemployment was 18% in the period up to 2007. This was just above the EU average. The dramatic rise was in 5 years after the credit crunch recession of 2008. By 2013 it had risen to 50%, over double the EU average.

I see that as being a result of the recession rather than Spain being part of the EU. My question is why the recession hit the youth of Spain in particular & so serverely? I wonder why you think its all down to their membership of the EU?* Why do you think the youth of Spain would have faired better if Spain was an independent country?"

Why do you think the youth of Spain would have faired better if Spain was an independent country?"


They wouldn't have to allow free movement of labour would they?