Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

Which if one actually reads the reports into the failure to respond and tackle these grooming cases, the main reason was that the Police and authorities took the view that these girls were asking for it, were beneath contempt and consequently took little notice of their complaints or gave up when the victims went back to the abusers.

The same attitude can be seen in the failure of the Glasgow rapist, the Police were not motivated to act on complaints because she was a *** worker.

Yes they did. But the question remains why?
1. It was hot potato of race rumbles, they didn't want to deal with
2. The girls being blamed was easier
2. The people complicit in the abuse spread far and wide, which was a road they didn't want to go down. Yep, local councillors were either involved, or part of the cover up.

The whole episode is a blight on British justice and shameful, in the name of multiculturalism and not rocking the boat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlCC...channel=GBNews

[swaledale]

Yes they did. But the question remains why?
1. It was hot potato of race rumbles, they didn't want to deal with
2. The girls being blamed was easier
2. The people complicit in the abuse spread far and wide, which was a road they didn't want to go down. Yep, local councillors were either involved, or part of the cover up.

The whole episode is a blight on British justice and shameful, in the name of multiculturalism and not rocking the boat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlCC...channel=GBNews

That's where your wrong, race "sensitivity" was part of the equation, but the far bigger issue was the fact that the girls were viewed as "worthless" or contributing to their own situation or even "willing " participants. The same issues were around other grooming gangs where the perpetrators were white. So contrary to your assertion, blaming it on "ethnic sensitivity" was the easier option, rather than admit, that the attitudes of the Police, social workers and other authorities was the key issue.

After all one doesn't have to look very far, to see widespread, misogyny, disregard of women, amongst the Police nationally in cases involving child abuse, domestic abuse not to mention the seemingly inability to bring successful prosecutions for rape

Anyway, the FACT remains that the vast majority of child abuse crimes are committed by white perpetrators. Something you and others like you who label every issue a "race" issue when it really isn't, don't seem to be able to understand. But then if you listen to an echo chamber of your own prejudices then that's hardly surprising.

Its certainly the case that there are issues around race, (although their impact on people like you is actually minimal) but Blaming it on "multi culturalism" is neither helpful nor accurate, you'd do well to actually get information from unbiased sources, rather than parrot the crap spun by people who have an alternative agenda. Until you do, you will just look rather stupid, not to mention a little bit xenophobic.

But I guess at least your prejudices are open, its obvious what you think, though not obvious that you think very hard.

[Andy_Faber]

Anyway, the FACT remains that the vast majority of child abuse crimes are committed by white perpetrators. .

It seems a bit of a common trait amongst you apologists that you choose not to take into account population demographics when making such assertions. The last government study found that 81% of perpetrators were white, roughly in line with the population. Recent posts including but not exclusively your own are riddled with such ignorance

[Trickytreesreds]

That's where your wrong, race "sensitivity" was part of the equation, but the far bigger issue was the fact that the girls were viewed as "worthless" or contributing to their own situation or even "willing " participants. The same issues were around other grooming gangs where the perpetrators were white. So contrary to your assertion, blaming it on "ethnic sensitivity" was the easier option, rather than admit, that the attitudes of the Police, social workers and other authorities was the key issue.

After all one doesn't have to look very far, to see widespread, misogyny, disregard of women, amongst the Police nationally in cases involving child abuse, domestic abuse not to mention the seemingly inability to bring successful prosecutions for rape

Anyway, the FACT remains that the vast majority of child abuse crimes are committed by white perpetrators. Something you and others like you who label every issue a "race" issue when it really isn't, don't seem to be able to understand. But then if you listen to an echo chamber of your own prejudices then that's hardly surprising.

Its certainly the case that there are issues around race, (although their impact on people like you is actually minimal) but Blaming it on "multi culturalism" is neither helpful nor accurate, you'd do well to actually get information from unbiased sources, rather than parrot the crap spun by people who have an alternative agenda. Until you do, you will just look rather stupid, not to mention a little bit xenophobic.

But I guess at least your prejudices are open, its obvious what you think, though not obvious that you think very hard.

Rubbish.

Apply population demographics against crimes committed and the results are damming.

Its facts like that, that you avoid. Blaming bias and predjudice.
Yes it was white girls abused.
because the situation was there to be exploited by one demograph of ethnicity. (Pakistani)
1. it was against the law in many ways- it was the perps fault not the vicims, no matter how much you try to white wash that
2. drugs and alcohol were used. They certainly were not wanting to be raped/peddled/passed around like a piece of meat
3. They complained, the authoritys didn't want to take it seriously and it was swept under the carpet.
4. You mention mysogyny? Go the whole hog then
The Muslim back ground of the perpetrators -
women are second class citizens/ white girls are beneath that/ they were easy to tempy with booze and drugs. In their eyes , their faith didn't condemn a lot in what they were doing.

The fight against grooming gangs is still being hampered by authorities’ fears that they could be called racist for documenting abusers’ ethnicity, an official has said.

A damning report by the Independent Inquiry into Child ***ual Abuse (IICSA) found child ***ual exploitation continues in all parts of England and Wales, a decade after it became a national scandal.

The report said children were being abused “in the most degrading and destructive ways” amid “extensive failures by local authorities and police forces”.

John O’Brien, secretary to the inquiry, called for a “cultural change” to ensure that child ***ual exploitation can be understood and prevented.

“We need to break the culture where people are worried that they might be accused of being racist just because they record factual information,” he told The Independent.


You keep apologising and trying to deflect the outrage, by blaming the likes of me for calling it out for what it is.

[Trickytreesreds]

Election year madness continues . Good old SNP hilarity never ends

The Scottish Govermment document says it would have a seat at the table at the UN, join the EU and be a full member of the Nato military alliance, while also removing nuclear weapons from the country.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ndence-4540930

[MadAmster]

Election year madness continues . Good old SNP hilarity never ends

The Scottish Govermment document says it would have a seat at the table at the UN, join the EU and be a full member of the Nato military alliance, while also removing nuclear weapons from the country.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ndence-4540930

An independent Scotland would, possibly not immediately but certainly would, have a seat at the UN, would join the EU, be a full member of NATO and would get the Westminster government to house their nuclear weapons outside of Scotland.

[Trickytreesreds]

An independent Scotland would, possibly not immediately but certainly would, have a seat at the UN, would join the EU, be a full member of NATO and would get the Westminster government to house their nuclear weapons outside of Scotland.

wow, really? You seem cetain there Maddy.
1. They have a massive way to go to join the EU, as they fail meet its requirements and have to get every member to vote yes
2. NATO, is exactly the same, New members must be invited by a consensus of current members.

Decisions to invite new members must take into account the required ratification process in the member states.
3. Nuclear weapons, move them and who is to say the UK is not going to disband every military station it can as a result?

This is chest beating desperation without explaining the difficulties involved and its implications, such as jobs at bases and ship yards .
Which is normal SNP bull****.
Paint a pretty picture and ignore the mess.

[MadAmster]

wow, really? You seem cetain there Maddy.
1. They have a massive way to go to join the EU, as they fail meet its requirements and have to get every member to vote yes
2. NATO, is exactly the same, New members must be invited by a consensus of current members.

Decisions to invite new members must take into account the required ratification process in the member states.
3. Nuclear weapons, move them and who is to say the UK is not going to disband every military station it can as a result?

This is chest beating desperation without explaining the difficulties involved and its implications, such as jobs at bases and ship yards .
Which is normal SNP bull****.
Paint a pretty picture and ignore the mess.

What stations and where?

An independent Scotland would be perfectly well within their rights to tell Westminster to house UK nukes in the UK. I presume any new Scottish government would keep the various Scots regiments, they would not be disbanding all bases. Part of any "divorce" agreement would be the splitting up of assets and liabilities. Scotland has 8% of the UK populace so they'd be entitled to 8% of the Air Force planes, Navy ships, Army weapons etc. They'd also be entitled to 8% of the nuclear arsenal although they'll probably decline that.

EU. Wouldn't get a shoe in but many EU states have already said they'd welcome an independent Scotland. NATO? Again it wouldn't be a shoe in but they would join. Scots regiments are legendary fighters.

[Andy_Faber]

EU. Wouldn't get a shoe in but many EU states have already said they'd welcome an independent Scotland.

But Spain haven’t and won’t because it sets a precedent for Catalonia

[Trickytreesreds]

What stations and where?

An independent Scotland would be perfectly well within their rights to tell Westminster to house UK nukes in the UK. I presume any new Scottish government would keep the various Scots regiments, they would not be disbanding all bases. Part of any "divorce" agreement would be the splitting up of assets and liabilities. Scotland has 8% of the UK populace so they'd be entitled to 8% of the Air Force planes, Navy ships, Army weapons etc. They'd also be entitled to 8% of the nuclear arsenal although they'll probably decline that.

EU. Wouldn't get a shoe in but many EU states have already said they'd welcome an independent Scotland. NATO? Again it wouldn't be a shoe in but they would join. Scots regiments are legendary fighters.

Are you just being naive or obstinate?

You want a list, here it is. Faslane Vangard base/ Argyle and Bute and Colport, (scotlands biggest miltary employer,) houses Nuclear warheads and all the ND deterrent supplies/ then there is Leuchars, Kinloss, Lossiemouth, Fort George, Royal Marines Condor near Arbroath, and the Hebrides Range. Scotland would have neither the funds/ ships/planes or personnel to man them all.
Yhet may not want the nukes, but they certainly don't want the job losses and loss of revenue those bases bring either.
Considering the massive budget deficit and tax increases that would follow, I couldn't see them man more than a few jeeps and hang gliders.
I know you have a secret wet dream for Jock independence, but I have Jock relatives who in no way want any of it.

I won;t go into all the royal navy contracts that would go in the bin either, as most of the companies located there, would leg it south