O/T Jeremy corbyn

[KerrAvon]

I have never told you that he is my man. You are mistaken.

[ragingpup]

I would say that you are looking to lynch Farage to the nearest tree rather than wait for a proper trial which in my eyes makes you worse then him. He is not now nor has he ever been far right. Just because you view him as being far right does not make it true.

Many would say that Corbyn is antisemitic (and they do say it) does it follow that he must be because some people say he is?

Calm down BL. I'm not looking to lynch Farage. Having far right political views is not illegal. All I have done is shared the common definition of 'far right' views and highlighted that Farage has expressed views that sit in that area.

Let's compare him to some others. Where would you place Mogg on the left - right scale? Mogg seems to me to be a strandard right wing politician, further right than May, Rudd, Johnson (if he was being really honest). Then comes the right wingers, Mogg, Raab, the ERG contingent that argue for a hard brexit but keep their arguments towards sovereignity and when talking immigration rarely get into identifying and singling out specific facial groups, getting their faces on posters that promote fear and hysteria against immigrant groups as a threat. Their arguments are more in economic grounds (although I'm sure some of these guys are just good at hiding their true feelings on immigration!) And then surely there is a progressive step, a political difference between these guys and Farage that generalises negatively and openly against political groups and even promotes using terms that offend whole race groups. And then you have his open daliences with other far right groups as Wanchai has linked to.

I repeat, he isn't extreme right, he's no Yaxley-Lennon, no neo nazi. But as reference points go, he is further right than the right wing of the Conservative party. Would you be happier with 'gentle far right'? 'Cuddly bigot'? 'Bit like my mum'? (scratch that last one, he ain't that bad :-))

[ragingpup]

Raging, you've spent the day arguing about whether Farage is 'far right' or not and getting upset about his comments about Romanians. Before getting too judgmental , you may wish to reflect upon your revered leader (who is the subject of the thread, after all).

Corbyn likes to hang out with the guys from Hamas and Hezbollah, - they are committed to the destruction of the state of Israel, but, hey, what’s a bit of genocide between friends?

And, of course, Corbs loves to take tea with the boys from the IRA - they like to take part in the odd bit of extortion, vigilantism and sectarian violence, but I guess nobody’s perfect. And, to be fair, Corbyn does put on serious face and sincere voice to condemn ‘all violence’ when asked about the IRA.

But at least, Corbyn is a union man, so I suppose that’s a saving grace- he's a member of the NUJ, which I guess might have helped him to get his gig on Iranian state TV. To be clear, that's the same Iranian state that 'disappears’, journalists who don't toe the line and who have imprisoned Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe for allegedly promoting journalism within the country. At the end of the day though, I guess a £20 000 fee helps to buy twine for the allotment and the Iranians don't like the Americans, so that's ok.

We don't know Corbyn's views on Romanians.

I wouldn’t vote for Farage under any circumstances. I wouldn’t vote for your man for the same reasons.

I would answer this Kerr. It is a very good question. But I can't be bothered...

[KerrAvon]

I would answer this Kerr. It is a very good question. But I can't be bothered...

Where's the question?

Does your hypocrisy know any bounds? That's a question.

[ragingpup]

Where's the question?

Does your hypocrisy know any bounds? That's a question.

You said "you may wish to reflect on my revered leader"... Don't you want me to reflect on my revered leader? Or do I just do it in my head?

(I didn't know you liked Dominic Raab. Shame on you ;-})

[KerrAvon]

You said "you may wish to reflect on my revered leader"... Don't you want me to reflect on my revered leader? Or do I just do it in my head?

(I didn't know you liked Dominic Raab. Shame on you ;-})

I'm entirely happy for you to reflect upon your leader in any way that you want, raging. There is probably little point, however, given your capacity for selective perception that is so important for the political zealot. Where was the question…?

[Shark27]

I never said brexit was a nazi party but I am trying to warn folks that it is a far rights party on par with thatchers party. If you don't mind that fair enough but for you ex labour voters out there who suffered under thatcher stopnand think. Do you want a thatcher type govt in power calling the shots bearing in mind what happened in theb80s and 90s. Seriously? Like I have said before the brexit party is not a neutral or left leaning partyIf you vote for them and you are a working class guy or gal this will bite you on the ar SE. You have been fooled and farage is the master of it.

If you are a wealthy guy on here then fair enough you could make a few quid out of farage.

So you're saying that the conservatives of the 80s were "far right".

Far right as in Nick Griffins BNP party or the National Front or something else?

[rolymiller]

So you're saying that the conservatives of the 80s were "far right".

Far right as in Nick Griffins BNP party or the National Front or something else?

No thatcher wasn't nazi right but further right than the may govt. some aspects bordered on nazism like the spg during the miners strike but not exactly the Gestapo no.

[Exiletyke]

No thatcher wasn't nazi right but further right than the may govt. some aspects bordered on nazism like the spg during the miners strike but not exactly the Gestapo no.

Roly
Think you may be forgetting Heseltine & the gaulighter Tebbit

[Shark27]

So you're saying that the conservatives of the 80s were "far right".

Far right as in Nick Griffins BNP party or the National Front or something else?

By the way, I never voted for the conservatives in the 80s (I was too young). I wanted labour in powr during the 90s.