Every day the vaccine rolls out

[Chick A Saw]

December’s government data projected that most covid cases in Scotland would be omicron from 20th December onwards. https://www.gov.scot/publications/om...vidence-paper/

On average if a patient is going to die from covid it takes 14 days from symptoms to death. https://assets.publishing.service.go...ntil_death.pdf

So the wave of deaths, never mind hospitalisations should be here by now if it was going to happen.

Rising “Cases” in light of immunity/vaccination levels amongst the vulnerable, and the less severe variant. We need to start seeing past this.

Are Scotland’s extra restrictions doing anything? Since we are having a surge on a par wit England’s it would seem not.

Nicola is on a needless and useless nanny state power trip.

“Just 3 more weeks to flatten the curve” doesn’t cut it anymore.

The thing on deaths you have linked to is from October 2020, and i am wondering how relevant that is to what we are dealing with now and the tools we have to fight it?

Report on the BBC last night mentioned the percentages of people going into hospital now that are unvaccinated, and while i cannot remember the figures, they were eye watering!

I have my doubts that Nics restrictions have been heeded as much as she wanted as those that feel the need will still be in the pubs and gather in their own homes. On that note, i might not attend myself, but i do hope she lifts the football restrictions for those that want to!

[tHeArAb]

Sturgeons puppet caught using out of date data to justify current restrictions.

Ooooops.

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....mpaign=organic

[tHeArAb]

Report on the BBC last night mentioned the percentages of people going into hospital now that are unvaccinated, and while i cannot remember the figures, they were eye watering!

According to Boris last night it was 61%.

[tHeArAb]

I see the Six Nations may be getting moved to English stadiums as a way of getting around playing in front of no fans. Wales exploring the option of using Spurs' stadium and Scotland St. James' Park. A proper 'f*ck you' to their respective governments if this goes ahead.

[Shedboy1971]

I see the Six Nations may be getting moved to English stadiums as a way of getting around playing in front of no fans. Wales exploring the option of using Spurs' stadium and Scotland St. James' Park. A proper 'f*ck you' to their respective governments if this goes ahead.

fvck sake thats just crazy eh

[JamesMcClean]

I see the Six Nations may be getting moved to English stadiums as a way of getting around playing in front of no fans. Wales exploring the option of using Spurs' stadium and Scotland St. James' Park. A proper 'f*ck you' to their respective governments if this goes ahead.

Good on them. It’s the threat of doing something like this which will hopefully highlight the ludicrous crowd ‘cap’ and show it up for the nonsense that it is. Why not fight fire with fire? The fact that it’s SCOTLAND that’s considering it and not just one individual Club will heap on a load of political pressure, of that I’ve no doubt. Only the threat of losing votes gives leverage these days it seems.

[GUNBOAT]

Maybe we have tied up with Fulham to play our home matches at Craven Cottage.I bet far more than 500 would attend.

[DUFCstokie]

Maybe we have tied up with Fulham to play our home matches at Craven Cottage.I bet far more than 500 would attend.

The South London Arabs would love that

[VanDerHoorn]

The thing on deaths you have linked to is from October 2020, and i am wondering how relevant that is to what we are dealing with now and the tools we have to fight it?

Report on the BBC last night mentioned the percentages of people going into hospital now that are unvaccinated, and while i cannot remember the figures, they were eye watering!

I have my doubts that Nics restrictions have been heeded as much as she wanted as those that feel the need will still be in the pubs and gather in their own homes. On that note, i might not attend myself, but i do hope she lifts the football restrictions for those that want to!

I see your point but it’s a bit of an oxymoron — we have better tools now which may mean longer time to death but those same tools would inevitably mean a lower death rate.

On a wider note I’d have no objection to any of these restrictions if they were voluntary. If someone doesn’t feel comfortable going to the football that’s fine, but to ban people from going to games is over the mark IMO.

The original argument was that you might pass the virus on directly or indirectly to a vulnerable person. That argument is gone now as a) the virus is everywhere so everyone will be exposed at some point and b) people who are vulnerable will be vaccinated and boosted and/or will have access to the new antiviral drugs, which appear to have an extremely high success rate.

So that changes things to everyone for themselves; you decide what level of vaxxing and restrictions you want based on how high the risk of covid appears to you.

Same as you can choose how many cigarettes to smoke, how much beer to drink and whether you want to play dangerous sports that might kill or injure you — maybe even making you a ‘burden’ on the NHS.

[Chick A Saw]

I see your point but it’s a bit of an oxymoron — we have better tools now which may mean longer time to death but those same tools would inevitably mean a lower death rate.

On a wider note I’d have no objection to any of these restrictions if they were voluntary. If someone doesn’t feel comfortable going to the football that’s fine, but to ban people from going to games is over the mark IMO.

The original argument was that you might pass the virus on directly or indirectly to a vulnerable person. That argument is gone now as a) the virus is everywhere so everyone will be exposed at some point and b) people who are vulnerable will be vaccinated and boosted and/or will have access to the new antiviral drugs, which appear to have an extremely high success rate.

So that changes things to everyone for themselves; you decide what level of vaxxing and restrictions you want based on how high the risk of covid appears to you.

Same as you can choose how many cigarettes to smoke, how much beer to drink and whether you want to play dangerous sports that might kill or injure you — maybe even making you a ‘burden’ on the NHS.

Trying to be a bit more positive that those with 2 and a booster(just got mine btw) are kept away from the worst of this and the anti-virals mop up more of the rest. TTT mentioned the other week that death rates are back to pre-covid normal and i hope they stay that way!

I think most people are now of the opinion that we should be permitted to live our lives as we see fit. We made the decision to not go to the footie between mid-December to Feb before Omicron was a thing and i also decided to keep to the 6 month booster limit having never knowingly caught this damn virus.