FAO Bears ref Keane's appointment..

[WangOneIn]

And Neilo, i,m not implying that at all, i'm saying that it seems the hvn link to the north of Ireland is all to do with religion

Unfortunately tribalism and religion played a massive part in the history of Ireland and when the people moved to Scotland they brought it with them. That's why you have orange halls and catholic schools.

When you see so many Irish familys in Scotland it perhaps makes the celtic connection to Ireland seem more legit but my point is that you wouldn't be able to tell who came from the "Rangers Minded" (is that better?)community of Ulster because their familys would be the same as the indigenous Scots.



nb. I prefer saying protestant and catholic because lets face it that's what we mean by "Rangers area" or "Celtic minded" etc...trivialising it to football teams lets too many people off the hook for being bigots.


Anyway, I will argue no more, it's a lovely sunny evening here and I hope

[AguyIknow]

Thats the difference though neilo, you brought religion into your statement, backing up what i just said, my grandparents were irish, my dad being the first of the 7 boys to be born in Scotland, im proud of them, and yes i know that some celtic fans gibber about it to the point of will you shut the feck up, but i can honestly say that i do t remember any rangers fan on here talking about the north of ireland in anything but religious terminology, whether it be pro prod or anti catholic.

It's not about religion but it is the easiest way to distinguish between the two communities. That's what I meant. You're implying that Rangers fans don't have family ties to Ulster ...I'm merely saying there's a lot more than people realise.[/quote]

Surely the easist way to distinguish between the two communities in NI is to do so on their pro-British or pro-Irish line. Most modern folk don't give

[JimmyHaze]

It should be fine for anyone to embrace their heritage, it shouldnt need to be something that means it has to also put down some other culture or heritage

[Jimmy_83]

Here lads, it's 2014.

We're all Earthlings, min.