Tan on Whelan

[WhatsGoinOn]

The problem with the world today is that too many people seem to go out of their way to be offended.

If someone called me a dirty limey bar stool, from a dump of a town like Derby, who sleeps with my sister at the same time as stinking of curry, would I be offended? Nope.

Id be offended if someone slept with my sister, then me mum then chucked a madras over me, but other than that, im good to go.

I am of the opinion that the person feeling offended is the one with the problem.

Life is too short for being offended...unless someone does your sister...then ya mum and then wastes a damn good madras

[Oldtimeram]

Tan calls Whelan a racist for referring to the Chinese as 'chinks'. Is this racism? Is it racist to call the Welsh 'Taffies'? Or the British 'Limeys' or the Americans 'yanks'?
It's not a derogatory term, it has no meaning so I can't see it myself. And this from a man who comes into a city and tries to change its identity.
Give me Whelan over Tan any day.

I have got to agree with you. I raised a similar point when someone complained about someone referring to a Pakistan as a Paki; What is the difference between that and calling someone from Australia an Aussie??[/quote]

No difference whatsoever Rammy .. Can we call ourselves English or do we have to be British.. .?[/quote]

For he is an Englishman...In the words of Gilbert and Sullivan

[Stringer_Bell]

Pakistani's call themselves Pakistani's not Paki's!!

Incorrect

[Manofpride]

What he hell is wrong with the world today! Folk are so sensitive and it's all getting out of hand, Whelan seems a nice chap to me.
I've got mates of all nationalities. We all call each other so it's banter. If we didn't know each other it would be racism.

At the end of the day there is good and bad in everyone, except Nottingham as they are a race on their own!

[swaledale]

[quote="Rapid"]dave whelen is a thoroughly decent bloke and one of the good guys in football. very honest and calls a spade a spade. I have much respect for him.

what i'll say in defence of tan is that the problem with words like 'chink' is that it can be used inaccurately, which is what whelen has done in this instance. tan is not Chinese (chink) he's actually Malaysian. so it's fair for him to be a bit upset by the situation. I don't think dave whelen is one bit racist from what I know of him but in this case he's been unwittingly ignorant.

on a grander scale I'd like to ask who it is that actually classifies these words as racist, offensive and or taboo?

there seems to be a 'group' for everything now days. a ridiculous sounding one on SSN today sticking their noses in ched evans' business. we've got kick it out sticking they're nose in dave whelen's business - that is his decision to appoint malkay McKay as manager long before chinkgate. what the ****

[Rapid]

Then he walks out of his front door and he's a thick set skinhead who looks like he wants a fight!

do you see the irony of taking the moral high ground when you've just been massively prejudice against this bloke?

it's a sad day when almost a quarter of a survey think you're being racist for displaying the English flag in...England.

[Eaststandram]

Tan calls Whelan a racist for referring to the Chinese as 'chinks'. Is this racism? Is it racist to call the Welsh 'Taffies'? Or the British 'Limeys' or the Americans 'yanks'?
It's not a derogatory term, it has no meaning so I can't see it myself. And this from a man who comes into a city and tries to change its identity.
Give me Whelan over Tan any day.

I have got to agree with you. I raised a similar point when someone complained about someone referring to a Pakistan as a Paki; What is the difference between that and calling someone from Australia an Aussie??[/quote]

It's not the word paki but the context that it is usually used, mainly aimed at people of any type of Asian appearance and its that ignorance that is offence, it's like calling a Scotsman a Englishman because they are white or a derby fan a red dog just because he a football supporter. It's used in generalisation of

[Oldtimeram]

There is far too much of the racist card being waved around nowadays

A complete farce in my opinion

[Trickytreesreds]

There is far too much of the racist card being waved around nowadays

A complete farce in my opinion

Exactly. I've worked with a "jock", "Taff", "paddy", alls happily used by themselves and when asked why the same reply I got was, "proud to be".

I have been friends with a French family who we met on holidays many years ago.

Dad calls me "boeuf" - the french call all english the beef eaters.
Naturally he gets called Kermit- after the frogs legs
All his kids call it him now, they love it.


The problem you find here now is. There are too many people looking for nastiness that just isn't there.
Also, there are people looking for a "chink" (get ready)in someones armour, to complain and gain an advantage.
Tan used this very tactic, to justify any actions he makes in his mad crazy world.

[Toggles]

Why are people soooo upset when someone has asked them not to use a word that they find offensive? People can make mistakes, but it is generally considered nowadays that referring to someone as a 'paki' is not very nice, and hasn't been for quite some time. Just as the term 'spazstick (sic) became to be seen as offensive by people who got called it, and they asked people to not use it.

People always turn these arguments about offensive words into a debate about 'why can't we be proud to be English/British without shame', or whatever. This just turns me away from what is sometimes an engaging debate about national identity. There are many things I'm proud of this country for and wish to defend, my 'right' to not have people being upset when I call them a paki or a spaz is not one of them. Nor is trying to blame most of our society's ills on recent influx of immigrants or labelling everyone who stands up against something that they think is offensive, a 'liberal' or overly PC or a w