O/T Mothers Day Present

[caytonmiller]

I don't think I could live with myself if I brought the infection to my household and one of them died through my neglect. I wouldn't say I was self isolating though I won't go out unescasrally. I went shopping for mum on Thursday and dropped off the shopping along with the card and flowers then. It's against everything we are used to but comon boys n galz. We need to set a example to the youngens. FFS if it was left to them nuffin would be done to fight the virus as long as they can have a beer, a party, sit in a park or on a beach. ☹️...
Some Muppet even lets them vote.

[Brin]

For the record, I don't think its entirely unreasonable to visit if appropriate precautions are taken. I think cautiously giving someone a tablet/smartphone and teaching them how to use video calling might be a worthwhile thing to consider.

The problem I had was with Brin's mindbogglingly ignorant attitude towards his risk levels because he feels 'fit and healthy'.

Oi! Dr F*****g Kildare, I had the common sense to let her unlock her door and leave it ajar. I placed her present inside the doorway as she stood back down the hall and in her kitchen. There was no bodily contact with a kiss on the cheek that I longed to give her and wish her happy Mother's day. My entire stay took no more than 30 seconds and it was very upsetting for us both.

How do you know MY state of health and what I may or may not have. You come across at times as an arrogant F*****g know it all, when in fact you don't know it all.

We spoke later on the phone, happy now?

[John2]

How do you know MY state of health and what I may or may not have. You come across at times as an arrogant F*****g know it all, when in fact you don't know it all.

This is hilariously ironic.

You've made my point for me. How can YOU know your own state of health with a virus that is contagious before showing symptoms?

[sota]

This is hilariously ironic.

You've made my point for me. How can YOU know your own state of health with a virus that is contagious before showing symptoms?

John, grow up and stop telling everyone where they're going wrong ffs. I sometimes wonder how I got where I am today without checking with you first.

[CTMilller]

This is hilariously ironic.

You've made my point for me. How can YOU know your own state of health with a virus that is contagious before showing symptoms?

I often feel you make good points, John 2, when you confront a line of thinking on this message board.

However, I don’t this is one of those cases.

In your response to his original post, you jump to your own conclusion about what Brin may or may not have done and I’d say you do it with a totally inappropriate level of condescension.

I really don’t think Brin was simplistically suggesting that, because he and his mum were feeling healthy, they could behave as though the virus wasn’t a threat; a point he makes completely clear in his follow up post. Neither he or his mum were displaying symptoms. They were healthy enough to have contact so long as they observed the rules.

You made an assumption about his level of knowledge and I would say you did it in a patronizing, finger wagging way.

Then, instead of just dropping it (or, heaven forbid, offering an apology for jumping to conclusions about other people’s level of intelligence) you go on to try to justify yourself with comments that suggest you haven’t finished looking even further down your nose.

Brin is not making your point for you. He’s just not the stupid person you’re trying to make him out to be...

...and to suggest there is a case for saying this is “hilariously ironic” - I really don’t think so - sorry.

[caytonmiller]

I will try to explain brin what CT miller and Sota are saying as I think I'm starting to get mm.
Fek him. Fek you. Fek them. Or as the famous Greek leader said Dolci Ducie Versi. (Google spell check needed)..

[John2]

I didn't say stupid, I said ignorant.

The implication that if you feel fine you can't spread the virus isn't just wrong, its potentially lethal.

I definitely came over too harshly, and I apologise Brin. I assure you it was from a genuine fear for the safety of vulnerable people and more representative of a despair and fear of a wider disregard for what the experts are telling us.

We're all adjusting to this and none of us are going to get everything right, and I shouldn't have sounded so judgemental.

[Brin]

I didn't say stupid, I said ignorant.

The implication that if you feel fine you can't spread the virus isn't just wrong, its potentially lethal.

I definitely came over too harshly, and I apologise Brin. I assure you it was from a genuine fear for the safety of vulnerable people and more representative of a despair and fear of a wider disregard for what the experts are telling us.

We're all adjusting to this and none of us are going to get everything right, and I shouldn't have sounded so judgemental.

John, I accept your apology and it takes a bigger man to accept he was wrong. I get your real genuine concern over the issue but, you've got to stop diving in and assuming you can talk down to people with your superior upper attitude.

Your are an intelligent fella and things you post are helpful at times but, stop trying to play the school master in future. Have a good evening.

[WanChaiMiller]

I often feel you make good points, John 2, when you confront a line of thinking on this message board.

However, I don’t this is one of those cases.

In your response to his original post, you jump to your own conclusion about what Brin may or may not have done and I’d say you do it with a totally inappropriate level of condescension.

I really don’t think Brin was simplistically suggesting that, because he and his mum were feeling healthy, they could behave as though the virus wasn’t a threat; a point he makes completely clear in his follow up post. Neither he or his mum were displaying symptoms. They were healthy enough to have contact so long as they observed the rules.

You made an assumption about his level of knowledge and I would say you did it in a patronizing, finger wagging way.

Then, instead of just dropping it (or, heaven forbid, offering an apology for jumping to conclusions about other people’s level of intelligence) you go on to try to justify yourself with comments that suggest you haven’t finished looking even further down your nose.

Brin is not making your point for you. He’s just not the stupid person you’re trying to make him out to be...

...and to suggest there is a case for saying this is “hilariously ironic” - I really don’t think so - sorry.

I think what shocked me most about what Brin said was his act of defiance against a specific request from the PM.

In his Friday 20th late afternoon briefing Johnson was unequivocal; 'do not visit your mother on mothers day'. It wasnt qualified by saying its ok to go if you are cautious. It was clear, dont go.

On 21st Brin pipes up ' My beautiful Mum is 85 in June and I for one will be calling down to see her tomorrow.'

I guess what Johnson asked for in that Friday brief was broken many millions of times over the weekend by the great British public. Where do we draw the line at what is acceptable in these hugely trying times?

[caytonmiller]

I think what shocked me most about what Brin said was his act of defiance against a specific request from the PM.

In his Friday 20th late afternoon briefing Johnson was unequivocal; 'do not visit your mother on mothers day'. It wasnt qualified by saying its ok to go if you are cautious. It was clear, dont go.

On 21st Brin pipes up ' My beautiful Mum is 85 in June and I for one will be calling down to see her tomorrow.'

I guess what Johnson asked for in that Friday brief was broken many millions of times over the weekend by the great British public. Where do we draw the line at what is acceptable in these hugely trying times?

At the end of johnsons speech a reported asked, will you be seeing your mum on mothers day. he mumbled "i will do my best to see her" surprised it didnt get mentioned on here. now is not the time to be a cok wan